Free Boat: Shoudl I take It??

peakay

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Sorry guys, there's been lots of good advice in here that I am taking to heart. But when someone tells me my financial position or i should sit in a lawn chair and toss benjamins in the water....I take offense to that.

No need for more posts - I get it. will report back if I do anything with it. Thanks for all your help.
 

GA_Boater

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I take offense! Not one person told your financial position. You brought up sharing expenses for some reason, not us. And all of the words written here were for the purpose of avoiding your wrongly stated "sit in a lawn chair and toss benjamins in the water" .

Good luck, I hope it works out.
 

WIMUSKY

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Sorry guys, there's been lots of good advice in here that I am taking to heart. But when someone tells me my financial position or i should sit in a lawn chair and toss benjamins in the water....I take offense to that.

No need for more posts - I get it. will report back if I do anything with it. Thanks for all your help.


I agree about the lawn chair and tossing benjamins post, I removed it.
 

ondarvr

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My Benjamin comparison was not to offend you, it was to show what the result would probably be of taking on this project.

If there was a trailer and you had a place to put the boat while working on, taking on the project wouldn't be such a poor idea, but to spend $500 a month for it to just sit there at the dock is not a good position to start from. A great deal of the work required won't be able to be done while its in the water. If the $500 a month isn't an issue, then get a newer and better boat that doesn't need the same amount work and enjoy it right away, it will still need a great of deal attention, so you'll have plenty of time to go down to the boat and chill.
 

milehighjc

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Sorry guys, there's been lots of good advice in here that I am taking to heart. But when someone tells me my financial position or i should sit in a lawn chair and toss benjamins in the water....I take offense to that.

No need for more posts - I get it. will report back if I do anything with it. Thanks for all your help.

I realize you may not even be reading any more... but in the event that you are, here are a few thoughts from a guy who bought his first boat in the fall of 2014. While anecdotal, my experience MAY be useful to you.

I have wanted a boat since the day I graduated from University of Cincinnati (1983). I grew up around boats, skied a bunch, and thought I knew at least a LITTLE about them.

I searched hard for about 6 months. I looked at seemingly countless boats. I ran spreadsheets to calculate what I thought it would cost me. I asked for advice (here, and on other forums as well). I finally settled on a cherry 1997 Crownline 182 with only 249 hours on it, owned by a guy who had it to entertain his grandkids, and babied it for 15 years. It really was the proverbial "lake ready boat". The water test was flawless. It was not cheap to buy, but it was in fantastic condition.

It has been a fantastic boat. It has given me almost NO trouble, and what trouble I have had can be traced back to my own inexperience/knowledge.

So why post this? Because despite my extensive research, planning, scheming, and LOTS of personal work I have put into it (which by the way I could ONLY do because it was trailerable), I have spent COUNTLESS hours working on it in my driveway - which Im happy to do, and I enjoy. I have still managed to spend about $2500 on it over the course of the time of my ownership (and yep, I have a spreadsheet that tracks every dime). That does not include the operating costs (gas for the boat, the truck I bought to tow it, the gas for the truck etc). It does include maintenance (oil changes, repairs), and upgrades/improvements/miscellaneous stuff. Ill drop another chunk of change in the next couple of weeks to have the outdrive serviced before the 2016 season (maintenance beyond my own time and mechanical capabilities). I put nearly another $700 worth of gas through it too. All that... and I dont pay for a slip. Even with all my research, I had NO idea that I would spend that much money on it.

Having said that, it has been worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY. The boat is the best investment I have made in good times and memories with my family. But know this going in: It represents a significant financial commitment even when the boat in question was a cherry condition, garaged boat.

When I was looking for the boat, I was actively recruiting "partners" - for the same reasons you listed. While I could afford it, I thought defraying the expenses by half would be a good move. After being told by multiple people that was a BAAAAD idea, I finally decided to just pony up the cash. Im glad I did. I know multiple people who tried sharing a boat with a friend, and when it was over, they had neither the boat, nor the friend. Boats are worse than cars... things ... happen. Especially to boats operated by rookie owners.

Just my $.02... if you really want a boat (and there are lots of good reasons to want one), take your time. Look around. Analyze ALL the costs with the jaundiced eye of a green eye shaded corporate controller. Know that even a GOOD boat will cost you a lot more than you think, and think about what happens if the boat suddenly needs major work, and you cant run it because you need to scrape together the cash to fix it first. I would suggest if you REALLY want a boat, find one in GOOD shape that you can expect to run most if not all of the summer without dropping major money. It will cost you more up front, but will reward you later.

Whatever you do... good luck.
 

Newbie@boats

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I realize you may not even be reading any more... but in the event that you are, here are a few thoughts from a guy who bought his first boat in the fall of 2014. While anecdotal, my experience MAY be useful to you.

I have wanted a boat since the day I graduated from University of Cincinnati (1983). I grew up around boats, skied a bunch, and thought I knew at least a LITTLE about them.

I searched hard for about 6 months. I looked at seemingly countless boats. I ran spreadsheets to calculate what I thought it would cost me. I asked for advice (here, and on other forums as well). I finally settled on a cherry 1997 Crownline 182 with only 249 hours on it, owned by a guy who had it to entertain his grandkids, and babied it for 15 years. It really was the proverbial "lake ready boat". The water test was flawless. It was not cheap to buy, but it was in fantastic condition.

It has been a fantastic boat. It has given me almost NO trouble, and what trouble I have had can be traced back to my own inexperience/knowledge.

So why post this? Because despite my extensive research, planning, scheming, and LOTS of personal work I have put into it (which by the way I could ONLY do because it was trailerable), I have spent COUNTLESS hours working on it in my driveway - which Im happy to do, and I enjoy. I have still managed to spend about $2500 on it over the course of the time of my ownership (and yep, I have a spreadsheet that tracks every dime). That does not include the operating costs (gas for the boat, the truck I bought to tow it, the gas for the truck etc). It does include maintenance (oil changes, repairs), and upgrades/improvements/miscellaneous stuff. Ill drop another chunk of change in the next couple of weeks to have the outdrive serviced before the 2016 season (maintenance beyond my own time and mechanical capabilities). I put nearly another $700 worth of gas through it too. All that... and I dont pay for a slip. Even with all my research, I had NO idea that I would spend that much money on it.

Having said that, it has been worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY. The boat is the best investment I have made in good times and memories with my family. But know this going in: It represents a significant financial commitment even when the boat in question was a cherry condition, garaged boat.

When I was looking for the boat, I was actively recruiting "partners" - for the same reasons you listed. While I could afford it, I thought defraying the expenses by half would be a good move. After being told by multiple people that was a BAAAAD idea, I finally decided to just pony up the cash. Im glad I did. I know multiple people who tried sharing a boat with a friend, and when it was over, they had neither the boat, nor the friend. Boats are worse than cars... things ... happen. Especially to boats operated by rookie owners.

Just my $.02... if you really want a boat (and there are lots of good reasons to want one), take your time. Look around. Analyze ALL the costs with the jaundiced eye of a green eye shaded corporate controller. Know that even a GOOD boat will cost you a lot more than you think, and think about what happens if the boat suddenly needs major work, and you cant run it because you need to scrape together the cash to fix it first. I would suggest if you REALLY want a boat, find one in GOOD shape that you can expect to run most if not all of the summer without dropping major money. It will cost you more up front, but will reward you later.

Whatever you do... good luck.

You couldn't have said it any better! Kudos to you.....

I agree on going half, I went half on a 6 place ATV trailer with a "Good" friend and now I have a trailer sitting in my yard I can't do anything with.

Great advice. Happy boating
 

peakay

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Checking back in. I do appreciate all the well intentioned advice and I don't doubt the validity. Sometimes you have to go with your gut and I have - we took it over officially at the start of the month, but have had it out and been working on it since last month. We've already had some very memorable times - two I will never forget. One while cruising, another while at the dock involving some ladies that will stay between my buddies and I!

So at this point I am a part of the community and will be posting in the other areas as there are several issues I am cleaning up and need some fellow boaters experience. I'm hoping I can contribute back as well with what I've learned so far installing a bimini, preparing to shorten one, refinishing some teak, tips gettign universal covers to work, etc..

I WILL post back if anything major blows up in my face (knock wood) or when i get rid of it to kind of sum up how things went. If anything really major goes wrong that we don't want to incur the cost of, we will be getting rid of it via boatangel.com.

And yes, I did take on a partner.

Thanks again and see you on the water!
 

redneck joe

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Good deal and enjoy. And ive got some dock/girl stories i keep to myself as well.....
 

LSU

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Well, not really a "boat" response but one time someone gave me a free Three Phase 220V Table saw.

After I had the garage rewired so I can run the saw my wife asked "How much is this free saw going to cost?"

I'd follow the good advice folks have given you above.
 

nola mike

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I'm actually with the OP! Free only costs money if you fix it. If it runs, and the slip fee is worth it to you, go boating. Now, if you're trying to restore it, well, that's money and may not be worth it. As far as the partner, I would have recommended one person owning the boat, the other paying half the slip fees in exchange for use.
 

WIMUSKY

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Nothing more to debate. OP acquired it and is going with a partner......
 
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