freeze damage....update

[bauerterry]

I installed new heads as said before and thought that the block was not leaking, after a longer run in the driveway, water in the oil......i took off the manifold again and did find two cracks in the valley, and now know the block is shot. I need advice....e-power says they have block for 299, i need to know what i need to do. The new block is a given. I would like to use all the internal parts from the old motor, it has no more than 100 hours on it. With the reman heads, and new block, is it ok to use the old crank, cam, etc with new rings, and new main bearings on the motor. Hey i am trying to save a few bucks and get a good motor, or would it be best to get a remaned short block....thanks and bondo you were very correct.....when a head cracks the rest of the motor needs to be looked at....thanks for all your help

 

[Bondo]

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Are You an engine building Mechanic ??????<br /><br />Do you Realize the Work involved with doing what you ask ????<br /><br />Even a "New" Block will Probably need a Bunch of "Fitting" to use your Old parts.........<br /><br />I Have Done the same thing with My 4.3LX........<br />Only I bought a used, Low mileage block from a local MachineShop for $100.00........<br />I used All My Parts,.. with new Bearings, Rings, Etc.............<br /><br />So,....... Ayuh,....... It Can Be Done.................

 

[bauerterry]

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NO, not an engine building Mechanic, airline pilot, but have worked with motors all my life. Screwed up with this motor. Big question is, do i spend money on a reman motor that i have to trust did it correct or do i do it myself. i do trust what i do, and am looking for advice on the rest of it. new main bearings are a given, rings like i said will have to be done also, rod bearings, should be ok, unless you think that they should be replaced, cam, timing chain, balancer i think should be a given, the heads are remaned so they should bolt on ok, pistons, like i said less than 100 hours, i feel they should be ok with new rings.....I guess the "fitting" that you are talking about concerns me....how much "fitting" do you think i need. I am without any other info am looking for advice.....my plan was to build up the motor and bolt onto it all the other stuff, ie alternator, fuel filter and such and wondering how much machining will be involved, if any.....any advice would be appreciated.......thanks again bondo

 

[Boomyal]

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Unless you're a pro, you'd be far and away better off letting an engine shop do the swap for you. They know the required measurements and would advise you when any of your old parts were not suitable.

 

[jeff13601]

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What size motor is it?

 

[cosander]

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uh....um the responses i see around here usually lead to if you haven't then don't, but if you never do something for the first time then you will never do it, it will always be a mystery. I consider myself smarter than the average bear so I tend to figure things out on my own. when I do make a mistake I consider it tuition to the school of hard knocks.

 

[Bondo]

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cosander,......<br /><br />I've been an Engine Building/General Mechanic for well Over 30 Years,........<br /><br />I Still Know Enough to send My Outdrives Out for Rebuilds...........I Don't own the Required Tools,+ Don't do it enough to justify the cost to do it Right..........<br /><br />An Engine will Probably Run when assembled by about Anybody,..... But do you want it to Just Run,... Or,.. Run Right,.. For a Long Time....???<br />

when I do make a mistake I consider it tuition to the school of hard knocks. <br />

That Can get Expensive.......... And,... The Boating Season is Too Short Now........Especially in Minn.............<br /><br />But,.... If Somebody is Willing to Try,..... I'm/We're here to Help...........<br />

 

[KaGee]

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Newboating....<br /><br />I have suffered though similar circumstances. In my impatience, I bought a remanned long block. <br />Upon disassembly of the old motor, (250 hours) I discovered that other than the milky gunk, the engine internals looked great. I could have saved enough $$ to buy new manifolds and risers if I were to get a fresh block and have a local engine shop swap it out. (Now, in my defense, I would have had to travel 200 miles to pick up the block, and the shop's decision to do the job was based on their inspection of that block.) As it turned out, I needed new manifolds and risers too. I ran out of money and never got back on the water last year. <br /><br />If you only have 100 hours and you want to do some work yourself, pull the motor, strip it down to the block and take it to a pro. Have them swap out the internals into another good block. Make sure they install brass freeze plugs.<br /><br />If you're impatient like me, go buy a long block and get-er-done. Impatience cost me an extra $600 and no boating time! I have since accumalated most of what I need and hope to have things buttoned down around Memorial day.

 

[jeff13601]

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Does anyone know what size motor everyone is talking about here?

 

[olbuddyjack]

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If I remember the previous post correctly, its a 4.3?

 

[beezee28]

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No size was mention... except Bondo who said his was a 4.3l.