Fueling boat at the dock

[bobdec]

Marina is $4.56 a gallon for 89 octane,100% gas. $.70/gal above gas station mid-grade w/10% ethanol. Typical fill-up is 50 gallons plus a $30.00 gallon of synthetic 2 cycle oil. Between storage, insurance, cleaning and maintenance. Wasting an hour or more to pull the boat to refuel it or filling and dragging around gas cans is the last thing on my list. Probably would be different story if it was trailered.

 

[cjjjdeck]

Marina gas is over a $1.00 a gallon at my lake. I have a 62 gallon tank and use a Todd Gas Caddy which holds 28 gallons. When the boat gets down to 1/2 a tank I fill it back up. I also use a Fuel Kleen Collar to prevent spills that I buy here at iboats. Here's some links if anyone is interested.

Todd:
http://www.toddusa.com/productdetails.aspx?id=100&f=22


Fuel Kleen Collar:
http://www.iboats.com/Fuel-Kleen-Co...825068--session_id.178199726--view_id.1185549

 

[tpenfield]

I usually try to load up as much fuel as practical before my boat is launched for the season. The Admiral gets gasoline discounts for buying groceries . . . And boy can she buy groceries. I got my first load of fuel for about $2.80 a gallon with the discount, then the additional fuel was about $3.70 at the local pumps. On the water was $4.45 So far, I've done about 135 gallons into the boat this season. It would be well worth schlepping some fuel to the boat, if I can get another 20 gallon batch for about $2.80 with the discount. Over the course of the season the total savings for me might add up to about $300 versus buying everything at the marina. Plus, since there is no fuel directly at my home port, I usually have to make an extra trip for fueling, which then uses more fuel.

 

[poconojoe]

Fuel on the street here is about $3.65 and the marinas are $5.00. I bought the safety shaker tube that someone here suggested. I will give it a try this coming weekend and report back. I saw a few videos online for this item and it looked good. We'll see.

 

[poconojoe]

Oh, the lake we are on is owned by the local power company and on their web site it states that it is not illegal to fill a boat at your dock. The dock we are on is part of a private community and does not have a fueling station.

 

[slag]

2-3 minutes? I can't fill the 25 gal in my truck that fast.

Really? I have a 26.4 gallon tank in my truck and it doesn't take more than a few minutes to fill up at Hy-Vee.

 

[UncleWillie]

5 gallons... 2-3 minutes.. UGH, does not compute. Who wants to waste 30 minutes filling up a 50 gallon tank when it should only take 2-3 minutes tops.

The original Quote was for 2-3 minutes to transfer a 5 gallon can.

Jiggler is amazingly easy and quick. You can drain a 5-gallon can in just 2-3 minutes and not spill a single drop....

The EPA limits the absolute maximum fuel delivery rate at the pump to 10 Gallons per minute.
50 gallons is going to take more than 5 minutes. Likely closer to 10, unless you are the only customer pumping gas.

 

[redneck joe]

Really? I have a 26.4 gallon tank in my truck and it doesn't take more than a few minutes to fill up at Hy-Vee.

you let it get to 26.3 gallons before fueling up?





I rarely get much lower less than half full, I've got a 36 gallon and takes me 5-10 minutes for that depending on last time the station changed the filter.



rj

 

[gddavid]

I heard this tip on a wakeboarding forum and it works awesome. You just need a 4' length of hose and any gas can. You don't spill a thing or get gas on your hands.

Set a 5 gallon can of gas on the gunnel of your boat where it set securely, take the cap off of the gas can and the boat, run a 4' length of hose from the gas can into the fuel fill of your boat making sure the hose reaches the bottom of the can, use your hand to seal around the hose at the top of the gas can and give the can a slight squeeze. The siphon will start and run through the hose faster than the jiggler because you can use a larger diameter hose, and there are no fittings to creat resistance.

Many guests catch on and realize that bringing a full can of gas in the back of their truck to contribute is a welcomed addition to outings.

 

[slag]

you let it get to 26.3 gallons before fueling up?





I rarely get much lower less than half full, I've got a 36 gallon and takes me 5-10 minutes for that depending on last time the station changed the filter.



rj

21.13 gallons today. My wife has the truck so she filled it up.

 

[slag]

The original Quote was for 2-3 minutes to transfer a 5 gallon can.

Right, lets do the math.

5 gallons is 3 minutes. 50 gallons would be the 30 minutes I quoted.

 

[midcarolina]

I tell ya what.......... If all these posts woulda had anything to do with what the OP was asking......... he would be set..............

 

[slag]

I tell ya what.......... If all these posts woulda had anything to do with what the OP was asking......... he would be set..............

They all do. The takeaway from this is, if you can afford to have a slip at a lake and have a boat on that slip, you can pay the few extra bucks to fill up at the marina. If by some chance your marina doesn't have fuel facilities (not seen a marina that doesn't, but I digress), your boat probably isn't too large and you can pull it out and go fill it up at a gas station. Refueling on the water on your slip can easily make a mess and take a long time to do and be a general hassle.

 

[oldjeep]

They all do. The takeaway from this is, if you can afford to have a slip at a lake and have a boat on that slip, you can pay the few extra bucks to fill up at the marina. If by some chance your marina doesn't have fuel facilities (not seen a marina that doesn't, but I digress), your boat probably isn't too large and you can pull it out and go fill it up at a gas station. Refueling on the water on your slip can easily make a mess and take a long time to do and be a general hassle.

Just so I'm clear - are you suggesting that the thousands of people who live on lakes that don't have a fuel dock should pull their boats out of the water every time they want to refuel?

 

[redneck joe]

21.13 gallons today. My wife has the truck so she filled it up.

way to close for me. I keep ready for the zombie attack and keep enough to get to the lake with the boat. Zombies don't swim.


rj

 

[midcarolina]

They all do. The takeaway from this is, if you can afford to have a slip at a lake and have a boat on that slip, you can pay the few extra bucks to fill up at the marina. If by some chance your marina doesn't have fuel facilities (not seen a marina that doesn't, but I digress), your boat probably isn't too large and you can pull it out and go fill it up at a gas station. Refueling on the water on your slip can easily make a mess and take a long time to do and be a general hassle.

No......... The OP was pretty clear on what he was asking for even went so far as to say he did not want to refuel at the marina's..........

That's prety arrogant to presume to tell someone what they should spend their money on don't you think, and to somehow say it's less of a hassle to pull the boat out and drive to a station.........Thats if they even have a trailer, I have several friends that live on the lake that do not even own a trailer..............

 

[UncleWillie]

Right, lets do the math.
5 gallons is 3 minutes. 50 gallons would be the 30 minutes I quoted.

Maybe it got lost in the translation, But, I was agreeing with you!
Others thought that you were stating that you could fill the tank in 2-3 minutes using multiple gas cans.
Others this you can get 50 gallons on-board from a pump in well under 5 minute.
It takes longer to refuel than you might imagine. Actually time it next time.

There is more confusion in this thread than I have seen in a while.

Filling at a Private Dock is going to take a while and is not the issue.
Filling any boat on the water is not against the Law, it is against the Private rules of the Property Owner, Marina, Parks Dept., Others.
My local Public Ramps do no allow refueling.
I can legally take the fuel away from the ramp, out in the lake, and fill up as long as I don't spill any.

The OP is at a marina. (I think! ??)
Filling from cans at the marina is not an option if he intends to follow the rules.
Sneaking the fuel on-board is one option.
Pulling the boat to a gas station to refuel is another option.

Spilling a little fuel in the water is NOT an option.
Making the transfer in a safe manner is the issue.

 

[oldjeep]

UncleWillie - I think you missed this

Oh, the lake we are on is owned by the local power company and on their web site it states that it is not illegal to fill a boat at your dock. The dock we are on is part of a private community and does not have a fueling station.

 

[Thalasso]

The EPA limits that gasoline that is pumped into motor vehicles to 10 gallons per minute. !

 

[tpenfield]

Last time that I transferred 20 gallons of gas from cans into my boat (at my mooring) it took about 30 minutes. So, about 7-8 minutes per 5 gallon can. Re-fueing at a slip might be quicker than what I can do at my mooring, but considering the pre-cautions needed to avoid a spill, probably best to take your time.

The 20 gallons lasts me about 2.5 hours of engine time average (8 gallons per hour - seasonal average). So, it looks like I can pour the gas only about 5 times faster than I use it :facepalm: .