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OldMercsRule

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Good, Mr Tree, maybe the domestic oil companies will stay here for a few more years. Why would it be smart for us to drive them off shore? Can anyone 'spain that one? (sorry: explain) I would sure be pondering a portable strategy as a capitalist owner of an oil company if it were my decision to make. The Brits are much better with business matters, so maybe Burmuda would work, with a LTD. in the name. Catchy don't ya think, Mr Tree? Democrat leaders are really disgusting, but they could not get away with it with out their brilliant victim voters n' supporters, (sorry: and). Therein lies the real problem. Sniveling whinning victims that can't tell which way the wind is blowin' without a fresh glass of Kool aid from the MSM. (sorry: blowing) But, you will be proud to know that they do understand and accept all aspects of homosexuality. JR
 

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Quote OMR

Good, Mr Tree, maybe the domestic oil companies will stay here for a few more years. Why would it be smart for us to drive them off shore? Can anyone 'spain that one? (sorry: explain) I would sure be pondering a portable strategy as a capitalist owner of an oil company if it were my decision to make. The Brits are much better with business matters, so maybe Burmuda would work, with a LTD. in the name. Catchy don't ya think, Mr Tree? Democrat leaders are really disgusting, but they could not get away with it with out their brilliant victim voters n' supporters, (sorry: and). Therein lies the real problem. Sniveling whinning victims that can't tell which way the wind is blowin' without a fresh glass of Kool aid from the MSM. (sorry: blowing) But, you will be proud to know that they do understand and accept all aspects of homosexuality. JR

This is the condensed version of what JR stated.


You think that if we behave the oil companies might not move offshore?


No problem JR they’re going anywhere, not with the Government giving them tax breaks to the tune of $7 billion dollars. That’s the subsidy that the taxpayer is giving the oil companies for pulling $65 billion worth of fuel from the Gulfs deep waters through 2011.Its called royalties that is the percentage that is paid for the privilege of drilling on federal lands. Guess what, they don they to pay any rent/royalties. Until 2011.

Yet the Senate Republicans blocked a $32 billion package of tax breaks for renewable energy. So much for trying to get any alternative energy programs through. Like I said bought and paid for by the oil companies, that’s this group of Republicans in the Senate.
 

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Yeah, I like Forbes stuff. Rock on Murk :)
 

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Yeah, you'd think even with half of one brain cell . . . :rolleyes: I guess it's more fun to panic and run around in circles and think you're a victim of every little thing. I prefer a victimless aproach to life ;)


Now gentlemen before you cry victim you do know that big oil has SHUT DOWN over 100 Refinery's over the past 15 years......you know since deregulation....... Now perhap's you are right someone's become a victim wouldn't you say... ohh if you need the link id be more than happy to provide you with such..... It makes for good brain cell growth......;)
 

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Quote OMR

Good, Mr Tree, maybe the domestic oil companies will stay here for a few more years. Why would it be smart for us to drive them off shore? Can anyone 'spain that one? (sorry: explain) I would sure be pondering a portable strategy as a capitalist owner of an oil company if it were my decision to make. The Brits are much better with business matters, so maybe Burmuda would work, with a LTD. in the name. Catchy don't ya think, Mr Tree? Democrat leaders are really disgusting, but they could not get away with it with out their brilliant victim voters n' supporters, (sorry: and). Therein lies the real problem. Sniveling whinning victims that can't tell which way the wind is blowin' without a fresh glass of Kool aid from the MSM. (sorry: blowing) But, you will be proud to know that they do understand and accept all aspects of homosexuality. JR

This is the condensed version of what JR stated.


You think that if we behave the oil companies might not move offshore?


No problem JR they’re going anywhere, not with the Government giving them tax breaks to the tune of $7 billion dollars. That’s the subsidy that the taxpayer is giving the oil companies for pulling $65 billion worth of fuel from the Gulfs deep waters through 2011.Its called royalties that is the percentage that is paid for the privilege of drilling on federal lands. Guess what, they don they to pay any rent/royalties. Until 2011.

Yet the Senate Republicans blocked a $32 billion package of tax breaks for renewable energy.

Hmmmmmmm, So you like Big Government to pick winners and loosers eh: Mr Tree? You are a smart fella, please share with me any evidence that the government telling private enterprize how to produce and picking winners and loosers has ever worked in history? BTW: it is easy to pick the eventual winners: THE BEST LOBBIESTS NOT THE BEST PRODUCERS!! Ya know maybe that why it never works!!!! :D:D The private sector has always been much more efficient at any type of production in the history of capitalism. That is why the USSR failed: Mr Tree, and we won!! :D:D Why would you want to saddle our own oil companies with tax burdens that foreign oil companies, (many state corntrolled with huge natural advantages of supply, and far larger then ours), don't have to pay. That just put our guys at a disadvantage.

Does Senator Maria Cantwell actually impress you soooooo much with her tremendous wisdom and intellect that you want to create a $32 Billion dollar slush fund for the Pols to doll out to those who profit from those type of programs? I guess you must really like the brilliant ethanol industry created by our Nanny government then. Thanks: Bob Dole, (amoung others). Please think CLEARLY and LOGICALLY folks before you transfer more power to politicians. Democrat or Republican: does not matter. Keep the trough as small as possible, don't grow it as big as possible. Am I asking too much of the American people? After all we are not discussing the finer points of homosexuality here, and my challange does require a little critical thinking.

Respectfully, JR


So much for trying to get any alternative energy programs through. Like I said bought and paid for by the oil companies, that’s this group of Republicans in the Senate.

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Quote OMR


please share with me any evidnce that the government telling private enterprize how to produce and picking winners and loosers has ever worked in history? The private sector has always been much more efficient at any type of production in the history of capitalism.
(I haven?t a clue to what your rattling on about here .I guesse its just Murky drifting off into the wilderness on his private quest)

Why would you want to saddle our own oil companies with tax burdens that foreign oil companies, (many state corntrolled with huge natural advantages of supply, and far larger then ours), don't have to pay. That just put our guys at a disadvantage.

(The only thing im trying to do is get some research into alternative energy sources, hopefully get us weaned off of fossil fuels produced by people that want to do us harm. I?m open to any suggestions on the $32 billion, I guess we could let the oil companies pay their royalties, and then divert it to research on alternative sources. That might just be a better way to go, Let them squeal. Where is your indignation about the lack of royalties that the most profitable companies in recent history or getting a free ride on?)


Does Senator Maria Cantwell actually impress you soooooo much with her tremendous wisdom and intellect that you want to create a $32 Billion dollar slush fund for the Pols to doll out to those who profit from those type of programs?


(Oo? ?(Senator Maria Cantwell ) don?t recall mentioning her, how did she get into our post Jr? Where is it stated that she will start a slush fund?)


I guess you must really like the brillient ethanol industry created by our Nanny government then. Thanks: Bob Dole, (amoung others). Please think CLEARLY and LOGICALLY folks before you transfer more power to politicians. Democrat or Republican: does not matter. Keep the trough as small as possible, don't grow it as big as possible. Am I asking too much of the American people? After all we are not discussing the finer points of homosexuality here, and my challange does require a little critical thinking.

(No not too enthused about ethanol, all the more reason to look elsewhere.) If we can subsidize the most profitable industry in history with free rent, surely we can throw a bone and try to get some research on alternative energy sources. Don?t be so negative JR it just might work. What?s $32 billion to the Bush administration? After all the National Debt is going up at an average of $1.16 billion per day, About 27 days in debt should take care of that don?t you think?
 

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Quote OMR


please share with me any evidence that the government telling private enterprize how to produce and picking winners and loosers has ever worked in history? The private sector has always been much more efficient at any type of production in the history of capitalism.
(I haven’t a clue to what your rattling on about here .I guesse its just Murky drifting off into the wilderness on his private quest)

No Mr Tree: I just wanted you to show how similar grand socialist schemes have worked in the past. Ya must not have found any examples of success: which makes Murky's point, ('cause there aren't any success stories out there only failures).

Why would you want to saddle our own oil companies with tax burdens that foreign oil companies, (many state corntrolled with huge natural advantages of supply, and far larger then ours), don't have to pay. That just put our guys at a disadvantage.

(The only thing im trying to do is get some research into alternative energy sources, hopefully get us weaned off of fossil fuels produced by people that want to do us harm.

Liberals and Socialists usually have good intentions. (I'm not calling you either: BTW). Just think of the "Great Society" clearly one of the biggest disasters in American history.

I’m open to any suggestions on the $32 billion, I guess we could let the oil companies pay their royalties, and then divert it to research on alternative sources.

Raise the bar on our guys, which just drives them out of the Country. Liberalism maybe a mental disorder but business is not: Mr Tree. There are real cornsequences to punishing a healthy American industry just because all the experts on homosexuality feel like it, ('cause they can't think rationally), and those are who vote fer Maria Cantwell and the rest of her Dem dim wit buddies.

That might just be a better way to go, Let them squeal.

Any $32 Billion slush fund that is the prize for the most successfull lobbists will not work in any positive way, AND IT NEVER HAS EVER: MR TREE. It just grants a huge advantage to the dictators like Hugo Chavez, where they already have huge advantages. It also make it likely our companies move offshore, then the Lib Democrats can set up Gulags fer our captive oil workers. Close Gitmo and open the oil service Gulag, n' all Haliberton employees are the first inmates. Do ya think Maria Cantwell will allow electric drills fer some friendly persuasion? Real sweet! Is Liberalism a mental disorder?

Where is your indignation about the lack of royalties that the most profitable companies in recent history or getting a free ride on?)


In case yer not payin' attention: I'm NOT A VICTIM. As a non victim, (with only one brain cell), I'm actually quite happy to buy fuel fer me hungry black boat anchors. It's a lot cheaper then the Brits pay in a world wide market, n' I'm very thankfull for that minor lil' cornsideration. I cornsider the Brits a pretty fair standard to judge business matters, 'cause they are some of the very best n' most experinced business people on this particular planet, It is no accident they hold more of our assets then any other Country. Sorry fer the cornpone but Murkys on a roll here: Mr. Tree.
BTW: indignation in fact righteous indignation is part of the primary terms used to further VICTIMHOOD!!!

Does Senator Maria Cantwell actually impress you soooooo much with her tremendous wisdom and intellect that you want to create a $32 Billion dollar slush fund for the Pols to doll out to those who profit from those type of programs?


(Oo… ?(Senator Maria Cantwell ) don’t recall mentioning her, how did she get into our post Jr? Where is it stated that she will start a slush fund?)

She is one of the dim wits who sponsored the legeslation fer the $32 Bill lobbyest slush fund. N' had a real stupid speech that showed me she is not as smart as I previously thought she was. Still not bad lookin though.

I guess you must really like the brillient ethanol industry created by our Nanny government then. Thanks: Bob Dole, (amoung others). Please think CLEARLY and LOGICALLY folks before you transfer more power to politicians. Democrat or Republican: does not matter. Keep the trough as small as possible, don't grow it as big as possible. Am I asking too much of the American people? After all we are not discussing the finer points of homosexuality here, and my challange does require a little critical thinking.

(No not too enthused about ethanol, all the more reason to look elsewhere.)

Oh, so ya don't like Bob Doles' slush fund fer lobbyists, but Maria's is OK???

If we can subsidize the most profitable industry in history with free rent, surely we can throw a bone and try to get some research on alternative energy sources.

Politics of envy does not work fer me, save it fer yer Democrat Buds: Mr Tree, they luv that stuff, makes 'em feel good if they hate their enemy. 'feel good/ hate' sounds like the stuff of a mental disorder, don't ya think?

Don’t be so negative JR it just might work. What’s $32 billion to the Bush administration? After all the National Debt is going up at an average of
$1.16 billion per day, About 27 days in debt should take care of that don’t you think?


No I don't Mr Tree. Very harmfull to someone who actually uses his sole brain cell, n' ponders history n' actual experience to come to a real cornclusion based on real facts not FEELINGS. Sorry for the 'pone, couldn't help myself. Respectfully JR
 

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Are we still trying to figure out how to take money from a private business?
 

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Quote OMC

There are real cornsequences to punishing a healthy American industry just because all the experts on homosexuality feel like it, ('cause they can't think rationally), and those are who vote fer Maria Cantwell and the rest of her Dem dim wit buddies.

[FONT=&quot]Hmmm?. still don?t see how it is punishment to charge the going rate too the oil companies to drill on public land. As for the second part of you post JR, seems you Freudian slip is showing again.;)

[/FONT] t also make it likely our companies move offshore, then the Lib Democrats can set up Gulags fer our captive oil workers. Close Gitmo and open the oil service Gulag, n' all Haliberton employees are the first inmates. Do ya think Maria Cantwell will allow electric drills fer some friendly persuasion?

Time for me to do a bit boiling down, and get to the meat of what you have said. I do believe when you push out all of the BS your concern is that the oil companies will move off shore? Well my last answer still stands, publicly held company?s, record profits, what incentive would they have too move?


In case yer not payin' attention: I'm NOT A VICTIM. As a non victim, (with only one brain cell),

Ooo?who pray tell called you a victim?:confused:



She is one of the dim wits who sponsored the legeslation fer the $32 Bill lobbyest slush fund.


I still haven?t found a slush fund, maybe I?m looking in the wrong area.

h, so ya don't like Bob Doles' slush fund fer lobbyests, but Maria's is OK???

[FONT=&quot]If your referring to the marketing of Ethanol, I think it cost to much to make, and using corn to make it is stupid. Has nothing to do with Bob Dole, where did he come into the conversation??? There is plenty of other Non food products that in my opinion is better suited for the purpose of making Ethanol?..Bob Dole bizarre:confused:

[/FONT] Politics of envy does not work fer me, save it fer yer Democrat Buds: Mr Tree, they luv that stuff, makes 'em feel good if they hate their enemy


What ever cranks your motor JR ,not trying to force any of my politics on ya, just trying to make a bit of sense of some of the points you have put forward. Guess maybe we are about 180 degrees out of phase on some things.
 

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Quote OMC

There are real cornsequences to punishing a healthy American industry just because all the experts on homosexuality feel like it, ('cause they can't think rationally), and those are who vote fer Maria Cantwell and the rest of her Dem dim wit buddies.

[FONT=&quot]Hmmm…. still don’t see how it is punishment to charge the going rate

Hmmmm, tell me what's the goin' rate Mr. Tree? How is this determined? Are ya sayin' that we would charge Hugo Chavez more then Exxon? Is this somethin' a Liberal blog made up?

too the oil companies to drill on public land. As for the second part of you post JR, seems you Freudian slip is showing again.;)

No slip here Mr. Tree. Public school educated children know a lot more about gay everything then you or I did when we went to school. I don't remember one word about it from any teacher in k-12. The UW was another matter, but it was not the adjenda even there at that time that it is now. My kids know a lot about the subject from their teachers in school. 'course, they did go to school in the Seattle Metro area. I hope the Mid West is a better place for kids to actually learn important things then here in Seattle.

[/FONT] t also make it likely our companies move offshore, then the Lib Democrats can set up Gulags fer our captive oil workers. Close Gitmo and open the oil service Gulag, n' all Haliberton employees are the first inmates. Do ya think Maria Cantwell will allow electric drills fer some friendly persuasion?

Time for me to do a bit boiling down, and get to the meat of what you have said. I do believe when you push out all of the BS your concern is that the oil companies will move off shore? Well my last answer still stands, publicly held company’s, record profits, what incentive would they have too move?

They would still own their American assetts, but Hillary could not confiscate their profits, as they would be domiciled under another soveriegn Nation. Some companies move off shore to avoid regulation, as in all things: there are pros and cons. Read what Forbes said, don't take my word for it. It would not be a good thing to have Zero oil companies to kick around.


In case yer not payin' attention: I'm NOT A VICTIM. As a non victim, (with only one brain cell),

Ooo…who pray tell called you a victim?:confused:

I was referring to yer question as to wether I was outraged, (or indignant was the word I believe) by some perceived slight from, or envious of something or privledge of BIG OIL.

She is one of the dim wits who sponsored the legeslation fer the $32 Bill lobbyest slush fund.


I still haven’t found a slush fund, maybe I’m looking in the wrong area.

h, so ya don't like Bob Doles' slush fund fer lobbyests, but Maria's is OK???

[FONT=&quot]If your referring to the marketing of Ethanol, I think it cost to much to make, and using corn to make it is stupid. Has nothing to do with Bob Dole, where did he come into the conversation??? There is plenty of other Non food products that in my opinion is better suited for the purpose of making Ethanol…..Bob Dole bizarre:confused:

Were ya nappin' when Mr Dole sponcered loads of legislation to get FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED ethanol out on the road Mr. Tree? Ever heard of ADM, (that's Archer Danials Midland), Mr. Tree? I don't like BIG GOVERNMENT from Dems or Republicans Mr. Tree. Bob Dole is a nice guy, but was a terrible choice fer the 1996 Presidential nod. The Republicans begged to loose that one: which they did. When the BIG GOVERNMENT gets a law passed to interfere in business, lobbyists line up to pad the pockets of Pols ta get the business. Ya don't really think they pick the most efficient producers, do ya Mr. Tree????????????? They pick the most efficient lobbyists. CASH GREEN DOLLARS gets ya access to the trough. Thought ya knew that.

[/FONT] Politics of envy does not work fer me, save it fer yer Democrat Buds: Mr Tree, they luv that stuff, makes 'em feel good if they hate their enemy


What ever cranks your motor JR ,not trying to force any of my politics on ya, just trying to make a bit of sense of some of the points you have put forward. Guess maybe we are about 180 degrees out of phase on some things.


Me thinks ya like to debate, (like me Bro does), cause you are good at it. You do bury me with yer internet research from time to time. I bet if we had a few adult beverages, we would agree more then disagree. Ya lean Dem, but you are hardly Liberal. 'course ya could be trickin' yer slow bud with only one brain cell. The adult beverages would make it harder to trick ol' Murky, n' the real Mr. Tree would come out. Sorry fer the 'pone. Headin' home now. JR :D:D
 

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Quote OMC


Is this somethin' a Liberal blog made up?

Comeon JR ,by now you should know that I can back up what I post ,you may not agree with the source, but it is what it is. Here’s a couple of links read away.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/29/AR2005072901128.html

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/FTPROOT/features/ngoffshore.pdf


I hope the Mid West is a better place for kids to actually learn important things then here in Seattle.

Wouldn’t know, I want to school in Medford Or. My two boys went to Parochial schools.

They would still own their American assetts, but Hillary could not confiscate their profits, as they would be domiciled under another soveriegn Nation

Care to explain how this would be done with say a company like Exon, with 1.24 billion shares of stock outstanding. Seems to me that would be rather hard to accomplish.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07E0DB1531F934A15751C0A961958260

Were ya nappin' when Mr Dole sponcered loads of legislation to get FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED ethanol out on the road Mr. Tree?


Sorry JR I dint know you were still pissed about something that happened last century, my wrong.:D

The adult beverages would make it harder to trick ol' Murky, n' the real Mr. Tree would come out. Sorry fer the 'pone. Headin' home now.

Sometime JR we’ll have cup of Morebucks ,I’m up that way most of the time at least maybe twice a month .When im working cant be drinking adult beverages, dontcha ya no with that damn satellite peering over my shoulder.:eek:
 

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Amazing he's bowed down a little, what i do not understand is why the long word's of war. I have never understood debating such a clear subject matter, it's almost as if word's have more meaning than result's which in my world have little to do with reality, and perhaps the issue here and perhap's why this country is so divided. People of low or no morale character............ ohhh no there's that morality thing that both lib's and neo con's hate...........:D
 

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Quote OMC


Is this somethin' a Liberal blog made up?

Comeon JR ,by now you should know that I can back up what I post ,you may not agree with the source, but it is what it is. Here’s a couple of links read away.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/29/AR2005072901128.html

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/FTPROOT/features/ngoffshore.pdf

Mr. Tree, I read both articles, (as I hope you did). The first is a nearly worthless screed by Liberal anti business staff reporters, (who may totally lack business background) at the Washington Post, (you can tell the author's obvious bias by the phrase: "Pinata of perks" in the first few paragraphs); the second was more insightful without the obvious adjenda.

Mr. Tree: I'm no expert on the oil business, I followed the industry, (by reading analyst's reports which are second hand info at the very least), to assist my investment clients. Niether article seems to show the reader where a company specific advantage or any " subsidy" has been created.

I don't know if you understand the economic realities of oil production. The cost of bringing a barrel of oil to the surface in the Middle East is a small fraction of the cost of domestic off shore production. The trouble there is: you guessed it: politics! If we feel it is in our interest, (as a Country) to have a larger 'politically stable' source of supply near our shores, (as most Republicans want), you may choose to give 'incentives' for exploration. If you want tighter supply and higher prices, (as many global warmin' Libs do or envirnmentalists do) ya lobby, (that means pay 'em real perks: Mr Tree), the Dems, and some wobbly Republicans to restrict oil companies access to supply as much as possible which the Dems actually do. Any time you (referrin' to "journalists" or WBW's MSM editors not you specifically Mr. Tree) can characterize the matter as 'corporate welfare' or "perks" towards an unpopular industry like the oil business during high oil prices ya score big wins with dim wit uninformed readers of yer articles that do not grasp the complexities of the particular industry. That sets the stage fer Maria Cantwell to win the votes of dim wit VICTIMS that don't ever think critically.

If ya ponder the tax revenue picture, (income to big government) with at least one of yer functioning brain cells, big government makes lots more tax dollars from producing wells then from zero producing wells. Pretty simple if ya think fer just a nano second. If ya want more oil or more taxes ya give the companies 'incentive' to take risk with their money, (by drillin' Mr. Tree). BTW: it is a fundamental 101 corncept of business NOT TO INVEST in a situation where you are the highest cost producer and vulnerable to the low cost producers who can lower their prices and put you in real trouble. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 1985: Mr. Tree. That is why I try to offset me Bro's propaganda about the oil business. The world situation makes OUR domestic industry very vulnerable to MONOPOLISTIC type of manipulations that large foreign producers who hate us can do and have done as recently as 1985. Big brother is trying to get them to risk their capital on very risky investments in high cost production in their industry to get royalty income and stretegic domestic production. An incentive IS NOT A SUBSIDY. If ya HATE business 'cause ya want Marx to rule yer world (n' my world too), ya just don't want any stimulation of any oil production activity so ya, (not you but the 'jounalist' with the adjenda: Mr Tree), brand all activity: "perks for ... (insert Big Oil, Tabacco, Pharma), n' talk about the poor Caribou, (the Caribou population has actually expanded on the North Slope so the truth does not matter, [ya know ends justify the means]). Most journalists in major city newspapers are anti business, and their adjenda comes across loud n' clear to those who understand the adjenda.

After listining to Maria Cantwell speak recently about her bill, I can't tell if she just does not get it, (as it sounds from her poorly chosen words), or she is working closely with the enemies of America to weaken us, (as Democrats have seemed to do since FDR's time). Either explanation is plausable. If you weaken our fairly small, but very well run domestic oil industry, (as compared to the rest of the world's oil industry), you really are shootin' us in the foot. I wish more people would think before becomming VICTIMS and voting for Democrats.

I, and most here who understand business am not "INDIGNANT" about incentives to increase domestic oil supply, that are available to all qualified bidders. I cornsider that a very logical policy. If I did not get it, and cornsidered myself a BIG FAT VICTIM of evil oil companies, I would p*** n' moan as much as the rest of the victims do, and they do it all the time.

BTW, please don't post fifty more articles from the Liberal MSM that need debunking, I get the picture, n' don't want to wear out me single surviving brain cell.


I hope the Mid West is a better place for kids to actually learn important things then here in Seattle.

Wouldn’t know, I want to school in Medford Or. My two boys went to Parochial schools.

They would still own their American assetts, but Hillary could not confiscate their profits, as they would be domiciled under another soveriegn Nation

Care to explain how this would be done with say a company like Exon, with 1.24 billion shares of stock outstanding. Seems to me that would be rather hard to accomplish.

Enron did it, so did Tyco, (it is not a physical move): Mr. Tree, (as foriegn companies are allowed to own American assetts). It would just take an army of lawyers and some rented office space in a foriegn country to put much of the taxation and domestic regulation beyond Hillary's reach. Some regulation would still effect the actual domestic assetts of course. She would then need the 'Oil Service Gulag' I mentioned to force the domestic oil production that she ran out of the Country so she could dole it out to her buddies as political favors to get more policical power.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07E0DB1531F934A15751C0A961958260

Were ya nappin' when Mr Dole sponcered loads of legislation to get FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED ethanol out on the road Mr. Tree?


Sorry JR I dint know you were still pissed about something that happened last century, my wrong.:D

What makes ya think I'm "pissed", I wanted to demonstrate to other readers that BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS create special subsidies for their cornstituants, (which I characterize as a lobbyist: "slush fund"), 'cause that is what it is. Lots of "Corn" is grown in Kansas, (n' nearby states), n' Mr. Dole recieved lots of 'perks' for settin' up a foolish ethanol subsidy that grew the government, n' hammers all of us to this day. That is the way big government works: Mr. Tree. If ya can create a "need" out there by appealin' to yer victims who want more government, ya can tax n' create a government program, where lobbyists line up to get the business. Ya know how lobbyists get business fer their cornstituants don't ya: Mr. Tree

The adult beverages would make it harder to trick ol' Murky, n' the real Mr. Tree would come out. Sorry fer the 'pone. Headin' home now.

Sometime JR we’ll have cup of Morebucks ,I’m up that way most of the time at least maybe twice a month .When im working cant be drinking adult beverages, dontcha ya no with that damn satellite peering over my shoulder.:eek:

Agreed, (I actually rarely drink), let me know when yer in Gods' Country, if ya have time maybe a trip to RR island is in order. JR
 

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2.97 yesterday for 87 - all thes posts are recent???? under$2 a gallon?????
 

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Re: Gas Prices

2.97 yesterday for 87 - all thes posts are recent???? under$2 a gallon?????

No, look at some of the dates from the first pages. I brought it back for a little gas-price-bitching nostalgia. See how everyone was screaming when it was under $2 a gallon and said they would have to quit boating if it went much over 2 bucks. Also, the same old arguements. I just found it interesting.

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Stan
 

hoeser

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Re: Gas Prices

I pay $1.10 / liter on the water!!
 
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