Grey Spark Plug Scum

Theoutdoorsman

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Re: Grey Spark Plug Scum

Don't let it get ya down. You'll get through it. At least you haven't pulled a head and found major damage like some other folks to visit. If all your problems can be taken care of with some advice from the good folks here at iBoats, a handful of gaskets, and a spare tire or two consider yourself blessed.... :) . Hang in there.
 

Randyg123

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Re: Grey Spark Plug Scum

Don't let it get ya down. You'll get through it. At least you haven't pulled a head and found major damage like some other folks to visit. If all your problems can be taken care of with some advice from the good folks here at iBoats, a handful of gaskets, and a spare tire or two consider yourself blessed.... :) . Hang in there.

Well blessed I be!!!

I just couldn't sit around here and do nothing so I went ahead and put the smaller tire on the trailer and hit the road. Put her in the water, warm-up lever up, choke switch on, and I turned the key. The strangest thing happen and I need someone's help to figure this out. When I did those things, the motor started up and then ran. Turned the warm-up lever down and it still ran but at a lower rpm. Put it in reverse and the boat moved backwards until I took it out of gear and then the motor just sat there and idled at about 650. What the heck is this?????? Is the motor supposed to start on the first crank and then just....run?

What will I do with all that free time now that I don't have to sit at the dock and throw a tantrum?

So you all get the idea here by now. It worked. Now the big test, I ran it cautiously up the river for about 1/2 mile slowly (no wake zone) and then at a moderate speed (15-20mph). I can only use the speed from my depth finder (paddlewheel) as an estimate. turn around and back to the dock. check the timing on the lower end to make sure I had 5 degrees when the cam roller lined up with the top notch on the cam follower. It did. Pulled #3 plug to look for grey, not there. Took the boat back out and slowly bumped up the throttle until I was maxed out. RPMs only about 3200, estimated speed about 35 heading into a 10-15 headwind. Turn round, back to the dock doing the same thing but keeping the throttle below WOT (just in case something was wrong). Pulled the plugs and they looked good. Pretty much like automotive plugs, Maybe just a tad of film on them.

I took her back out and took it WOT,this time maybe 3500 rpm and a little faster. On the downwind leg I was able to hit about 4100 rpm and speed was 45. But I noticed some surging in the rpm gauge when doing this. It would shoot up about 200 rpm but I could not here the engine surging to match. Anyways after all was said and done, back on the trailer, checked the plugs and they looked good. Interesting that the rpms were higher on my downwind run. Does this mean prop issues or still some low HP issues?

I used up about 2.5 gallons of gas doing this, which seemed to be much worse gas mileage than I am used to. And the engine just seemed to run a bit rough. It definitely did not purr. It's a giant leap forward but I still would not trust taking it out very far without a buddy boat nearby to tow me home.

Maybe now I can take it back to the person who gave it a tune-up and ask him to fine tune it from here.
 

Benny1963

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Re: Grey Spark Plug Scum

good deal but hammer down you shoul run a lot higher rpm you need to get your boat now to turn up its wot rpm.
good dealyou should be in the high 5000 range wot
not sure but you have your manual
great
 

Randyg123

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Re: Grey Spark Plug Scum

I also failed to note that when I cleaned the plugs, I decided to check the gap on them. With my gap gage (wire) I found that all plugs were just under 0.030 but above 0.028. Since these were out of the box, I doubt the mechanic that installed them re-gapped them. I doubt they would even have checked them before putting them in (but hopefully did). I can easily expect the tolerance of these gauges to be a thousandth or two so the fact that my gauge showed a little less doesn't surprise me.

So I gapped them to 0.030 using my gauge, meaning I did open them up about a few thousandths. Doubt that would make much of a difference in my spark but still I figured I should have brought this up as it was another variable in my situation.

I am thinking that later on, I may regap them more towards 0.040 as some have suggested as I would like better low end performance than high end. I just don't need to run it fast. In fact at time I would like to troll with it but right now it just won't run for very long at trolling speeds. But then is a 135 really meant to do this anyways?
 

Theoutdoorsman

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Re: Grey Spark Plug Scum

You will benefit greatly in proping the outboard to turn the correct rpm's. I'd shoot for a minimum of no less than 5600 and would venture to say the optimum rpm range would be 5800. Don't worry about the speed of the boat. Get those rpm's higher to avoid lugging the outboard, which is what your doing currently, at all your throttle ranges. As far as trolling with your 130......... LOL....... nah. I guess you could, but I wouldn't. I suggest you start a new thread to obtain suggestions on optimizing your setup to gain the maximum performance out of your rig. You will be surprised at what your missing out on!!! Keep an eye on those plugs for a while, just in case. Best of luck!!!............ ALAN
 

Randyg123

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Re: Grey Spark Plug Scum

You will benefit greatly in proping the outboard to turn the correct rpm's. I'd shoot for a minimum of no less than 5600 and would venture to say the optimum rpm range would be 5800. Don't worry about the speed of the boat. Get those rpm's higher to avoid lugging the outboard, which is what your doing currently, at all your throttle ranges. As far as trolling with your 130......... LOL....... nah. I guess you could, but I wouldn't. I suggest you start a new thread to obtain suggestions on optimizing your setup to gain the maximum performance out of your rig. You will be surprised at what your missing out on!!! Keep an eye on those plugs for a while, just in case. Best of luck!!!............ ALAN

Thanks for the reply.

I think I'll hold off on messing with the prop for right now. Maybe that is why I can't idle slow enough through a no-wake zone. I imagine I need to eventually find a less aggressive prop. Will save that issue for a new thread!

I still want to work out all the bugs elsewhere before making more changes. Wondering if I can find a mechanic around here that has a test wheel to do a tank test properly. The two mechanics I found so far around here (that will work on old motors) only use muffs :eek: when working on motors. I will check my plugs every hours or so , until I get more confident in the engine's performance. Still need to work out my timing issues. As soon as I figure out what I'll do next, that will be my next thread. Thanks again to all for your assistance.:)
 
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