Had a widowed buddy over w/ his 3 young kids, I'm thinkin time to get a real job?

LippCJ7

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Re: Had a widowed buddy over w/ his 3 young kids, I'm thinkin time to get a real job?

I agree your a good man, God has a special place for people like you
 

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I really would love to take those kids shopping - life is good for me, they need it, and it would put a huge smile on my face :>)

Start of school is soon, and Christmas isn't that far away ... those are natural times to be the "cool uncle" who buys some stuff for the kiddos. If you want to, you should probably be able to get away with a few "presents" for them. He'd probably appreciate it too.

Keep us posted.
 

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I'm no angel, but certain things get me - ie kids first no matter what - hmmm the gift card thing is sneaky enough???
 

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I'm no angel, but certain things get me - ie kids first no matter what - hmmm the gift card thing is sneaky enough???

I still like the plan in post #21 best, what I quoted from you, verbatum. The way I see it, compared to the honor, dignity, and warmth of your words... My gift card plan seems cowardly, and almost underhanded.

I'm sure you'll make the best choices, and have the opportunity to do this for your friend and his children.
 

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A true friend; you are both blessed to have each other.

The kids have gone through enough; they need their father around. That's number one - preservation of life. The clothes are a very distant second.

He?s obviously gone through it with losing his wife; and three young kids cannot be decreasing his stress and anxiety levels.

I'm with Bubba on the depression bit; that's best left for professionals. Depression can result in tragic events, and there are usually warning signs (frequency, amount, and reason for alcohol use; lack of ?starch,? etc.).

As is often the case, however, it generally isn't feasible for you to walk up to him, tell him to get professional help, and expect a positive outcome.

You?ll probably have to gently figure out what his barriers (if any) are to getting help, and getting him to appreciate that what he thinks about professional help might not align with the reality.

In this case, his getting help is probably a normal response to an abnormal event.

He needs you as a friend, and he needs someone trained to handle what he's gone through. I don't know the dynamics of your particular relationship, but maybe it would be helpful (or at least not harmful) if you have someone that could take the kids shopping or on a day trip while you guys spend some time "away" from life as it is. Everybody handles things differently, and you might be surprised at what comes out when the rest of his world (the children) isn?t watching. In that respect, I'll pass along the best advice I've ever heard for that type of situation - you have two ears and one mouth; use them in that ratio.

All that said, I cannot overstate the need for him to get help if he is depressed.

I agonized over whether I should say the next bit, but I will since I think it may be helpful: I once sat basically idle and watched a friend self-destruct; and vowed never again. When it?s all said and done it?s hard to forgive yourself if you think you could have done something to change that outcome. I?m big on not getting myself into the affairs of others, but this type of stuff I make exceptions for. The next time I was involved in a similar situation, I asked permission to do the legwork (that was this friend?s barrier), cleared my calendar, played driver for the day, sat in the waiting room, went out to lunch afterwards, and took him for a boat ride. I got a few choice words during the car ride over (half jokingly), but after it was all said and done he realized that it was easy, painless, and made him feel a whole lot better. After the first time going he realized it was nothing like he thought and worked through his issue with his counselor.

As far as the secondary issue, the kids will need clothes at some point. If you are concerned with the charity causing a rift, do it anonymously. You might have to get creative, but how you do it really depends on what exactly you're trying to avoid.

In any event, I hope your friend, his three kids, and others who have posted about the loss of a loved one experience true healing.
 

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He's 39, wife died 2 years ago, twin 4 yr olds, and one 7 yr old girl - was a fun bbq day, pool, etc. But boy did he drink bout everything alcoholic in house - goin for the buzz, he gets Social security for the kids(and him? I think?) but barely gettin by, still haas his house but seems to me he content doin odd jobs and collecting, he's talented and I know he always is a good dad, has some family and friends help w/ kids, a sometime girlfriend, but I heard the kids say they needed new clothes, and I'm sure he could do better if her got a real job, dont get me wrong, his wife was a lovely young lady(breast cancer got her 2nd time around after twins born) and he's "waiting" for this company business to "take off" which he's been workin on for years - well ok great if it does, but how bout now, what his kids need? I about took them clothes shopping.
Is ok to grieve obviously, but hey, my dad died when I was 6, and i know mom worked her butt off to get a job and support us.
Just curious bout what all think.
I also texted him saying i would take em shopping, no reply.

I've been down that road...using booze as the crutch. He needs to find a way to stop drowning himself in the alcohol. I did that for about 4 years and when I awoke from the haze, my children were not what I had wanted them to be.....typical of no disciplined kids. It has taken me a very long time to correct that situation I created.
Get the man some help...AA, a local church, government agencies....anything to help him....and you can help by being the one to suggest he's on a downward spiral. It might affect your relationship in the short term, but it will solidify it in the long term.
 

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I lost my wife at 45, almost 7 yrs ago. Cancer is the devils own disease. It sounds like your frind is bottoming out, two yrs is about the lowest point for many widows. It's somewhat a solitary process, you can be there for him but only he can heal, and then only if he want to. He will learn to manage the hurt in time. It never really goes away. A grief counseler may help. There are many good online grief sites you can suggest to him. WWW.WIDOWNET.ORG is among the best IMO. Be his support system but you can only give him bits of advice at a time, don't push. The drinking worries me, I think the best you can do is help with the kids all you can. Maybe take some of the parental pressure off.
 

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Well my buddy and his kids came over for a bbq/pool day(last minute notice! :) ), had a blast, and my son's job was to start emptying his room of toys for them - went great and geez the 7 yr old girl got some almost brand new flippers(son out grew in 6 months!) and the boys plenty of army men, etc. we split the food bill, I made sure I only had Bud lite and a few wine coolers, food was fantastic(ribs, sausages, burgers, dogs and all the extras) and he just had a FEW (2-3) drinks, i think the change was, he brought his girlfriend with them :) , we all used to work together, so it was great for me to see her after 5-6 yrs, they also left earlier(845) as the gf and i get up early for work, was a great evening!
 

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That's great news! Must be something of a relief for you. Hope things continue to go well.
 

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Sounds like he may be looking to the future now. That is good. Concord is a great place to visit but wouldn't want to live there again. lol
 

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Sounds like he may be looking to the future now. That is good. Concord is a great place to visit but wouldn't want to live there again. lol

Yeah he seems to be doing a bit better, drinkin wayyy less, laughing, etc. Youv'e been to Concord? I lo9ve it here! :)
 
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