Hand guns

Expidia

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Remingtons are popular with law enforcement but IMO the best 'bang for the buck' as far as shotguns is the Mossberg 500. Inexpensive and stone reliable.
Mine is a Mariner and has a 16" (I think) barrel- shortest legal length. I added the Weaponlight. Perfect for home defense.

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Sorry to hijack this handgun thread . . .

"Best bang for the buck" . . . now I know where that expression comes from :)

Ya, thats the one. It was the Mossberg 500. Love that weapon light and how short the over length is of the entire weapon.

I'll check out those other suggetions the Remington 870, or a Benelli M4, the Maverick 88 Security too. I also like the sound of only spending around $200. I'll see which position of the safety I prefer.

When I was in the Army we carried the M4 sub machine guns. Now that would be a great weapon for homeowner defense :D
 

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When I was in the Army we carried the M4 sub machine guns. Now that would be a great weapon for homeowner defense :D

Ahhhh the old "spray and pray" method!! The noise alone does a good job! :D
 

Expidia

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I think the best noise for scare tactic is probably the slide of a pump shotgun. LOL

Ha ha ha . . . whenever my Wife hears **** Cheney's name mentioned on TV she makes that double clicking pump loading sound of a shotgun.

Jay Leno used to always make that sound in his monologues after Cheney shot his attorney friend in the face with a shotgun while bird hunting.

Say, do you know what you call an attorney getting shot in the face with a shotgun?



A good start . . . . :D :) :D
 

rjlipscomb

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the best advice given is to go to a gun store with a firing range and some hand guns to try out or a gun club with rent-able units. Find the weapon that fits your style and use. Like said, what fits your hand may not fit mine. What shoots a little low to the left for you may shoot a little high and to the right for me.

Attend a basic firearms class. Attend an advanced firearms class. Attend a "combat" class. Understand, irregardless of the posts above, a firearm is a weapon with one purpose in mind, to kill. If you are going to own one, know how to use it, get professional training, stay in practice, and know it's purpose. And hopefully, you will carry with you the confidence and peace of mind knowing that you can and will protect yourself (or others) and never have to use it.

I have:

Colt 9mm Semi
Ruger 45 Semi
S & W 38
and a pretty little 22 revolver.
 

JRJ

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Lots of good advice here. Personally, I am more accurate with a Glock 9MM than a Ruger .40 and a Sig .45 is easy and smooth, but a .38/.357 revolver is hard to beat. Join a gun club and shoot as many different guns as you can. Accuracy is more important than firepower. Have fun.
 

perrosuperior

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I carry a G23 on a daily basis, and when attire allows I carry my G22. I am in a CC only state, so that limits me. If I was able to open carry I'd likely carry my G22 more often than not. Capacity is a consideration.

I agree with others here about renting and shooting as many as you can until you find one that fits you.

I struggled with the caliber debate for a while before I settled in on the .40. I have owned all kinds of calibers, but when it comes down to it, my .40 has stopping power and reliability. With that said, I am also looking into 'conversion' barrels so I have a little more flexibility when it comes to rounds. With my pistols, I can pick up conversion barrels that will allow me to shoot 9mm or .357, and with all three barrels I'll have 9mm, .357, and .40. They make the barrels for the G22 and G23, and depending on how I like them, I may end up getting a set for both. Versitility is key!
 

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Try a shot shell in a revolver. Over penetration has to be thought about if you are in town or do not live alone.
 

fishingman220

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i have found a range near by that does rent guns so i will going to try a few. i know i do want a semi, not revolver. i do hunt so i have experence with guns just not much with pistols. after all reviews i have read i want a glock do to all the reliablity. but thanks for all the great info. yes i do def plan on atteneding a gun safty class, concealed weapon class and home defence class.
 

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Well if you do go Glock then I would recommend that you also buy the .22 conversion unit for it. It will still make you allot more proficient and cheap ammo is fun to shoot off!
 

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Lots of good advice here. Personally, I am more accurate with a Glock 9MM than a Ruger .40 and a Sig .45 is easy and smooth, but a .38/.357 revolver is hard to beat. Join a gun club and shoot as many different guns as you can. Accuracy is more important than firepower. Have fun.

I always had a better follow up shot with the old wheel gun but more fun with the Beretta.

It's been 10 years but I'll probably pick a .40 up for some target shooting. I like the idea of the conversion barrels on the Glocks.
 

BeaufortTJustice

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I have a Glock model 19 its small enough for conceal carry. You must be carefull with a Glock. If have a round in the chamber they have no safety switch. With target amio mine shoots a hair low at 25 yards my normal shooting distance. As said before take a training class.

You must be careful with every firearm...GLock are no more "dangerous" or accidental discharge prone than any other firearm. There may not be a "switch" on the outside of the gun, but there are several internal safety mechanisms on the inside. I hate to nit-pick, but one of my pet peaves is the perpetuation of the myth that "no external safety means it is more dangerous" than any other handgun, which is simply not the whole truth. Properly holstered, it's as safe as any other handgun.
I have carried a Glock, in one form or another (G22, G27, G36), professionally for over nine years and trust in not only its reliability, but its safety, as well.
 

perrosuperior

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I'll add that in the past I have had other models of .40 to include the S&W sigma series, a taurus PT140 (my father has this now). While some have bad names, I never had any issues with either.

With regards to the comment about a 9mm being "smoother" I've noticed that it can be easier to shoot with less recoil, but I am just as acurate with my .40 as I ever was with my 9mm. I think that's more from practice than anything else.
 

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I had two that I should never have sold - a Taurus 357 w/ 6" bbl and a original Browning Hipower 9 mm with shoulder stock holster....grrr.....they were both so accurate!
 

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If considering home defense.. consider the home repair bill when you shoot someone. Use a 12G shotgun with buckshot and you'll be replacing 1/2 the walls behind the guy. And you sure won't get the reimbursed by the crook. A tile entryway is always a good idea, too ;)

Just an example as to why sometimes the gun which does the best job isn't the best for the job. Pick the gun which meets all of your qualifications, including the ones after impact. Are you shooting to kill? Do you want long range accuracy? Do you want a scary sounding gun ****? Do you want a hammer or will it be in your pocket where a hammer may snag?

Only you know you. Opinions on a particular gun are for a particular person. A simple analogy is asking what rod and reel to buy.. no two people are the same. Happy shopping
 

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If considering home defense.. consider the home repair bill when you shoot someone. Use a 12G shotgun with buckshot and you'll be replacing 1/2 the walls behind the guy. And you sure won't get the reimbursed by the crook. A tile entryway is always a good idea, too ;)

But nothing puts the fear of God in a person more than the sound of an 870 or a Mossburg 500 being racked. If the intruder knows that sound your only repair bill will be for a new storm door that he runs right through on the way out:eek:
 

xxxflhrci

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But nothing puts the fear of God in a person more than the sound of an 870 or a Mossburg 500 being racked. If the intruder knows that sound your only repair bill will be for a new storm door that he runs right through on the way out:eek:

That old rack and scare 'em story gets spread around like the gospel. In reality, it is a bad practice and best left to the movies for more than one good reason. First, you don't want to be standing around with an empty chamber waiting on an intruder to get within earshot, because things might escalate quickly and not leave you time to chamber a round or even worse you could have a malfunction. Secondly, the last thing I want to do is give away my position to the intruder.....To put it in short words, only a fool would go to a gunfight with an empty gun.;)
 

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If considering home defense.. consider the home repair bill when you shoot someone. Use a 12G shotgun with buckshot and you'll be replacing 1/2 the walls behind the guy. And you sure won't get the reimbursed by the crook. A tile entryway is always a good idea, too ;)

But nothing puts the fear of God in a person more than the sound of an 870 or a Mossburg 500 being racked. If the intruder knows that sound your only repair bill will be for a new storm door that he runs right through on the way out:eek:

or a Winchester Model 12 , 12 ga pump, 3" magnum with a 28" barrel open choke,slugs and no plug, or my Russian 12 ga, dbl 18" bbl break open, twin triggers with open chokes and 00 buckshot - ahh but I digress.....
 

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for the normal guy can't beat a revolver for simple easy to opertate always shoot. Get a 22 LR first to practice with.
If you are not worried about concel carry get a ruger mark 2 semi auto. Cheap to shoot and you get to practice shooting a hand gun.
Next any good 357 revolver is a good side arm to have.
I like my latest ruger lcp for a small handgun.
My baby eagle 45 was not the best purchase, I had to retrofit with a different spring to make it not jam. Also I had a p-10 45 which was junk.
Revolvers are simple to use and very reliable.
40 s&W, 357, and 22LR are my favorite cartriges.
 
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