Hard starting 71 Johnson 9.5

John Lapic

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I pull the starter rope till I can almost not pull anymore before I can get my 1971 Johnson 9.5 running. Once I finally get it running, it runs great and will re-start with one quick pull of the starter rope the rest of the day. I have already adjusted the low speed. High speed jet is a fixed jet. I cleaned the carb and did a decarb (twice) with Seafoam. Any suggestion as to how I fix cold start problems?
 

ezeke

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Re: Hard starting 71 Johnson 9.5

Are you keeping the choke pulled out (on) until the engine starts when cold?
Have you looked down the throat of the carburetor to be sure that the choke is closing completely?
 

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John Lapic

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Re: Hard starting 71 Johnson 9.5

The choke is completely closed, but I will admit, after pulling for a time, I figure I might be flooding it open the choke. Then I keep pulling till it finally turns over. I never had trouble with this till I re-jetted the carb. I used this motor at low altitude (1000 ft) and moved to another state (6000 ft.). Ever since re-jetting, I seem to have trouble getting it going first thing, After it does get going, it will run fine. I am having trouble figuring out why this only happens when cold.
 

ezeke

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Re: Hard starting 71 Johnson 9.5

I have mine set at sea level with #48 (stock) orifice. What are you now using at 6,000 feet?

Are you using J6C OR J4C plugs. Ithink that I would try the hotter J6C plug at .030.
 

John Lapic

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Re: Hard starting 71 Johnson 9.5

I also had a .048 jet. After buying several and trying them out, I settled on a .042. I am running a J6C gapped at .030. It just seems odd that it is that hard to start but after warming up, restarts like a champ. This whole cold start thing did happen after I re-jetted. I am now wondering if I should change to a .044 jet. To settle in on a new jet, I reduced jet sizes by .002 till I started getting reduced performance. That happened at .038. Performanced seemed to peak at .042
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: Hard starting 71 Johnson 9.5

Assuming that you have proper compression and spark.........

Fuel flows thru the high speed jet before it obtains access to any other fuel passageway. However, the high speed jet you speak of replacing due to an altitude change is strictly a jet change for high speed, top end performance.

Starting depends on what amount of fuel is provided to the engine via the adjustable slow speed jet. Either the slow speed jet is out of adjustment or something has been overlooked within the carburetor. Obviously fuel flows sufficiently thru the high speed jet or the engine would never run at the higher rpms.

Spray a small amount of premix fuel/oil directly into the carburetor's downdraft throat. If the engine now starts as it should, concentrate your efforts towards the carburetor's slow speed fuel passageway.

If the tip of that adjustable slow speed needle valve is not perfect but rather has a groove worn in it, that alone will create many problems.

(Carburetor Adjustment - Single S/S Adjustable Needle Valve)
(J. Reeves)

Initial setting is: Slow speed = seat gently, then open 1-1/2 turns.

Start engine and set the rpms to where it just stays running. In segments of 1/8 turns, start to turn the S/S needle valve in. Wait a few seconds for the engine to respond. As you turn the valve in, the rpms will increase. Lower the rpms again to where the engine will just stay running.

Eventually you'll hit the point where the engine wants to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mild backfire). At that point, back out the valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest slow speed setting.

When you have finished the above adjustment, you will have no reason to move them again unless the carburetor fouls/gums up from sitting, in which case you would be required to remove, clean, and rebuild the carburetor anyway.
 
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