heat alarm at high RPM

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I think I know the answer but thought I'd throw it out there:

this weekend my boat suddenly sounded the heat alarm; we stopped immediately. it would sound when you turned the key without starting; this continued about 5-10 minutes after the first time. Towed it to the house.

It just had a new water pump installed so that was a suspicion, but it pumped fine, ran at idle no problem (later). I removed the thermostat and water pumped out that hole; I replaced the thermostat anyway as it is at least several years old in high salt water.

after replacing the thermostat and having no issues at idle, I creek tested it. ran fine for a 5 minute run at about 3/4 speed (on a plane) but sounded off after a minute or so at high speed. Turns out the first time it did it was when my daughter, who was driving, ran it up to high speed. And before her incident I ran it about 3/4 speed for a 5 minute test run, no issues.

The next day I ran it about 20 minutes at mid speed, but on a plane, no issues (rather than tow from the house to the ramp I ran it with a second boat following to tow).

Like many coastal boaters I don't run WOT much and have a comfortable cruising speed with a "sweet spot" on the motor; however high speed isn't really screaming like an over-revved motor. No tach, not sure of the prop pitch but it's supposedly matched with the motor. No oil alarm. When the alarm went off it wailed and I shut down immediately but did not feel that "slowing down" that occurs with a bad overheat (BTDT).
Suggestions are to get a heat gun and see if it really is overheating or if the alarm is over-sensitive. Or maybe I should hook up the tach and see what's happening.
BTW the boat is left out of town and I am home so I can't go check it until next time I go there.

Johnson 70 from about 1987, run hard in salt water when used but only used about 8 x a year and mostly for short (20 minute) runs for transportation to an island and around the marsh. A beater motor on a beater boat.

My conclusion is that the higher RPM's are too high and causing it to approach overheat level. Solution is to reinstall and watch the tach, adjust the prop to keep within limits, test the alarm's sensitivity with a heat gun. Can you put a governor on an OB like that?

thanks in advance for your expertise!
 

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Re: heat alarm at high RPM

It just had a new water pump installed so that was a suspicion, but it pumped fine, ran at idle no problem (later).

How did you determine it pumped fine? No problem at idle is a meaningless standard if you're experiencing problems with high speed operation.

It appears you have lost just enough flow to put you over the edge at high rpm. The first thing I would do is to tear the lower unit back off and check the water pump installation. I would take a good look at the coupling on the water pipe leading to the head. The second thing I would do is to back flush it while I had the LU off to see if something isn't obstructing the water passages. I would then load it up with Salt- Away and let it sit for the while.
 
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Thanks. I had the work done at a local and reputable shop. after the first incident I called the mechanic but at that time didn't know about the high speed factor; when I figured that out they were closed for the weekend. I'll give him a call with this new info and i bet they will look into it for me.
 

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Thanks. I had the work done at a local and reputable shop. after the first incident I called the mechanic but at that time didn't know about the high speed factor; when I figured that out they were closed for the weekend. I'll give him a call with this new info and i bet they will look into it for me.

It can only be 3 things: Water pump, thermostat, or heads. Place water pump s/s plate on a piece of glass and see if it is flat or warped..if flat=good. if it bows up=bad. Do the impeller fins remain curled when you remove it? if no=good. if yes=replace it. Remove thermostats when engine is hot. Are they open? yes=good, no=bad. Finally, if still overheating at high speed only, you will need to remove the heads and clean them out. they probably have dried salt crust and other garbage in there. The water passages are very small and it doesn't take a lot to clog them.
 

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our fear on getting into the head is that it is likely the bolts won't all come out. If there are 30 on the cover, you know 25 will come out fine and the last 5 will kill you. We discussed this along the possibility of clogged passages, keeping fingers crossed.
 

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I had my heads off a couple of times to repair an eroded water passage. No problems at all with the bolts. They are only on there with 18-20 ft pounds to begin with
 

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BTW, have you removed the thermostats and stuck a garden hose in the motor to flush it? That might do the trick if just a little sand in there
 

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no but that's a good idea. I did "test" the water pump by starting it with the thermostat out and confirmed water was pushing through.

Having no choice, this boat is run through sand and mud a lot.

Someone recommended removing the L/U to reverse flush like that--do you think it's required? As i said it ran fine for a 20 minute trip at about 3/4 speed and on a plane; that trip I didn;t want to risk damage and run it up to high speeds that tripped the alarm before.
 

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no but that's a good idea. I did "test" the water pump by starting it with the thermostat out and confirmed water was pushing through.

Having no choice, this boat is run through sand and mud a lot.

Someone recommended removing the L/U to reverse flush like that--do you think it's required? As i said it ran fine for a 20 minute trip at about 3/4 speed and on a plane; that trip I didn;t want to risk damage and run it up to high speeds that tripped the alarm before.

You do not have to remove the l/u. I believe you have a v4 or v6 motor. remove both thermostats and when the hose is inserted, the block will fill up and water will come out the other head...reverse flushing
 

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btw, you can run the motor at 3/4 speed and not overheat all season and it will not hurt the motor. my motors ran 4000 rpm for 1/2 a summer but if I hit 4100, they would overheat...winter project to remove heads and clean them.
 

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true but 25 years in salt will lock some of them up.
Your assuming the worst. Mine is 16 years old and run in the same waters. No signs of corrosion on the thread whatsoever. Tore a head off a buddies 1986 175hp a couple of years ago. Same thing. The constant expand and contract of the block keeps them pretty clean. Can't say as much for lower units.
 

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You do not have to remove the l/u. I believe you have a v4 or v6 motor. remove both thermostats and when the hose is inserted, the block will fill up and water will come out the other head...reverse flushing

3 cylinders one thermostat
 
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