Heat soak?

JasonB

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'76 Merc 888/Ford 302

Havid a bit of trouble and need some advice from those who have been theer before. Engine was rebuilt 150 hours ago or less, carb rebuilt last year. All new fuel filters. Temp at idle, 140, temp after running 2/3 throttle for 30 min, no more that 170-180.

The problem I am having is that after long runs, it won't idle. I can run 2 miles and the temp stays under 160, no problems idling. I can run 12 miles at 170-180 and when I drop below 850 rpm, it struggles to run. I run a "fast idle" of 900-1000 rpm and it runs ok. Once the temp gets back below 150-160, it will idle ok again. I have a new impeller kit to put in it, but it has done exactly the same for a couple years and I did a new impeller last summer trying to make sure I was cooling ok.

The fuel line hangs 1/4 inch away from the block/intake most of its 12-15" length. Carb is teh stock Rochester 2GC on a Merc adapter to the Ford 2bbl manifold.

Would a carb spacer help? I have a line on a stock cast one. Have also considered getting some rubber hose to put around the metal fuel line to try to insulate it against the heat.

Even with short runs, I tend to let it idle for a coupel minutes to get back to 140, otherwise it takes a couple turns of the key to start, like it is having to get fuel back in the carb.

Any ideas on how to solve this problem?
 

APPALOOSA2

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Re: Heat soak?

Your engine should not heat up 40-50 degrees because you are running it 12 miles. If your replace the waterpump in the drive and did it correctly that should not be the issue.First check your waterpump belt on the engine, does it look slick on the sides from slippage ? For some reason a lot of boaters seem to ignore the belt on the engine.
I would change the thermostat "cheap" run it and see what it does. If still hot I would pull the waterpump on the engine.
This after I ASSume you have checked all hoses and waterways.
 

Don S

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Re: Heat soak?

You may just need a tuneup and possibly some carb repair. 170 to 180 degrees isn't your problem, although that is pushing it for a raw water cooled engine. Mighy want to pull the risers and inspect the exhaust system for being plugged up with rust.
 

JasonB

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Re: Heat soak?

Just for fun:

Boat is freshwater only
Manifolds were replaced at rebuild
Risers aren't much older
All hoses were replaced ~50 hours ago
Belt replaced every 2-3 years whether it needs it or not
circulating pump replaced soon after rebuild
Plugs replaced 20 hours ago along with wires
Has Pertronix ignition module and coil (have high speed cutout at 90% throttle and up since this module was installed)

I'll start looking for clogs.
 

Don S

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Re: Heat soak?

Has Pertronix ignition module and coil (have high speed cutout at 90% throttle and up since this module was installed)

Want to guess where your problem may be??????

Put the points system back together and see if that cures your problem, bet it will.
 

JasonB

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Re: Heat soak?

The resistance wire was removed when the unit was installed. Where can I find a new one?
 

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Re: Heat soak?

If you want to put the points back in as a diagnostic aid to see if that solves the problem, you do not need to worry about the resistance wire. It will run fine at full voltage. If that solves the problem, you can them replace the Pertronix ignitor. If this is a new unit, I would have it replaced under warranty.

If you want to permanently return to the points, (which I would recommend against), then, yes, you will need to put a resistor wire or ballast resistor in the wiring to the positive side of the coil.
 

JasonB

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Re: Heat soak?

True. The Ignitor II is long out of warranty. I may drop the points back in for the next trip out to check.
 
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