Help a newbie please

DufferJim

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Hello all. First let me say I've been poring over this forum community for a few hours and you people are incredible. I've never seen a more helpful bunch of people, combined with an abscence of jerks, in any set of forums anywhere.

A quick back story before I ask for help: My father and I are avid fishermen but, until now neither of us has had time enough to warrant a boat, so we've settled for shore fishing or rentals in the 2 or 3 times each season (in western NY) we have. Now my father is retired and I'm disabled, so we set out in search of a nice little fishing boat for the inlets, streams and bays around lake Ontario and the Finger Lakes. My father came across a boat that fit the bill and bought it. It's a '77 Mirrocraft 14' aluminum v-hull with a '78 Evinrude 25hp outboard. He paid $1200 for boat, motor, and trailer, with the motor running well and the hull floating. It also had a couple nice extras like 6 pole holders, 2 new fuel tanks, a fish finder and a little marine radio. We're hoping to refurbish it in time for the fall runs.

Cosmetically it's rough looking in and out(faded and scraped yellow paint on the hull, faded and peeling applique on the benches), but with access to a paint booth and the proper equipment we'll have her looking sharp in a two-tone scheme to match his truck, so this isn't an area of concern. As I stated before the motor runs and seems to have been well maintained, and we're both former auto mechanics, so with a proper repair manual that's not a concern either unless something major happens. We have all the safety gear suggesated by the USCG. The trailer is getting fresh tires, bearings, and wiring as well as paint and roller bunks.

Here are my problems and questions:
1. The wooden transom board looks pretty weather-beaten with a tiny bit of raising in the grain on the ends, but it feels quite solid. Is this something we should consider replacing right away? If so is there something besides hardwood and marine sealant we'd need to use?

2. This is the big one. The boat has an old cable-and-pulley steering setup in a terribly slapped together homemade wooden side console. Anyone who's ever worked with wood couldn't stand to look at this console without shuddering, and the steering is non-funtional. I have some oak in the shop to build a new console, and we'd like to make it a center console to help with balance and driver comfort. Our budget doesn't allow for anything but the most basic steering setup, which from what I gather should be fine for a 14' boat with a 25hp outboard. Is it as simple as installing a rotary steering system and wheel? Will I run into routing and kinking problems running the cable down and back to the transom, then up and to the side? Most of the rotary kits I've seen say they're best used with existing power steering. Am I looking at the wrong thing here?

3. By the time it's all said and done we'll have invested nearly $2500 including all repairs/mods above to boat and trailer, trailering cover, insurance, registration & inspection, and the original purchase. This pretty much soaked up our hardware budget. Have we invested too much into what most boaters would likely consider a glorified rowboat?

4. We've both operated rentals and friends/rekatives boats in the past, but any general advice for us as owners? Any specific thing to look out for with the Mirrocraft or Evinrude?

Thanks for reading this monster post. I'll certainly be quicker to the point in the future. Thanks in advance for any help.
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Re: Help a newbie please

Welcome to iboats Duffer Jim, Sounds as if you got a fair deal. Sorry I can't help you much on some of your questions.

As for using oak, I have used it on the trim of my cabin cruiser. It looks beautiful when finished, however by the time the season is over with it looks terrible. The past 5 seasons I've had the same result, it just ends up peeling off, discoloring, and looks bad. Next season I plan to use an oil and see how it does. It is what the old salts on the board recommended way back. I probably should have taken their advice.

Good luck and yes boating is a big expense. :D Don't get the 2 footitis right away and you'll be fine.
 

RubberFrog

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Re: Help a newbie please

Use teak and oil it. Forget oak or any other hardwoods.
 

Bondo

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Re: Help a newbie please

Ayuh,............ Teak,+ Mahogany are Boat Hardwoods........

About the Only place for Oak, is in the bilge of an old Wooden boat........
And then, is got to be Boiled White Oak.........
As Any other Oak, or White Oak that hasn't been Boiled will Rot in No Time.......
 

Silvertip

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Re: Help a newbie please

Rotary steering systems do not have to be used with power steering -- especially on a 25HP motor. I have a 75HP engine and steering is very light and comfortable. The key to routing a rotary steering system is to get the right length cable. There is no room for error. Rather than oak for a console, I'd use marine plywood as oak would be a continual maintenance nightmare. Since we can't see the transom, you will have to make the call on whether or not it needs to be replaced. Raised grain does not mean the board is rotten. Poke it with a screwdriver. If it sinks in -- replace it. If it doesn't, sand it and refinish it if you like.
 

DufferJim

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Re: Help a newbie please

Thanks all for the great answers and advice. Unfortunately Teak is prohibitively expensive for what I'd like to do, and I have the oak on hand. If it means heavy maintainance it'll just have to do for a year or so until I can replace it with Teak for the long term, along with other things we'd like to do when the budget allows, such as a fishing platform and seat mount up front.
 
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