Help diagnosing / valuing 1997 trailer

mickms

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I'm looking at buying a 1997 20 footer sterndrive. It's been sitting in the yard for a couple years on a Trailmaster tube-steel trailer with surge brakes. I believe boat is about 2600 lbs, so if I understand the law, it needs to have breakaway breaking at a minimum to go on the highway.

Anyway, the trailer has an Atwood hinge-type actuator, and Dexter drum breaks (8-201-90 stamped on them - looks really heavy duty). Hubs have a bearing-buddy like setup as well.

Now the problems... the actuator is rusted so that the pivot lock-out for backing up is hard to engage. The master cylinder cap won't come off so I can't check the brake fluid level. The break-away actuator cable clip is rusted solid IN THE "BRAKE ON" position. I towed this boat 2 miles to a marine mechanic and the trailer was shuddering and seemed awfully hard to tow (I have a 5.8 hemi with tow package). Checked the bearing buddies... there is watery grease dripping out from the outer seal. The brakes are probably on too, because of the breakaway being on, so I'm guessing there's a rear seal leak and the pads are fouled with grease too. The trailer frame itself has some non-structural rust around the step plates, and there is plywood rot.

Now the questions: if you were buying a 14 year old boat with a trailer in this condition, what kind of price concession would you look for from the seller, if any? Seems like it's sub-par to me who has always trailered my boats, but apparently "good enough" for the owner who docks his all season.

Second, once you bought the boat, assuming you want to do more that just trailer the thing twice a years to and from the dock, would you try to fix up this thing, or would you just get a new (or decent used) trailer?

Finally, if you know what kind of cost I should figure for repairs / replacement per question #2, that would be a big help too... as well as what I might get for it if I bought the boat and sold off this trailer to someone else?
 

Bondo

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Re: Help diagnosing / valuing 1997 trailer

Ayuh,... Yer buyin' a 14 year old boat, the trailer is a plus, just by the fact it's there...
I don't see a price consideration involved, myself...

If ya Need a wagon that works properly, plan on Replacin' the complete brake system, 'n repackin' the bearings...
As well as replacin' any rotten wood...

A 3000lb. trailer on my front lawn is worth 'bout $800. regardless it's condition...
More if completely rebuilt...
 

mickms

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Re: Help diagnosing / valuing 1997 trailer

That's kinda where I've gotten to as well... I did my own "inspection" of the wheels and with a jack under the axle, there was about a 1/4 inch of shimmy on one wheel, and maybe an 1/8" on the other. Both wheels were turning relatively freely, although there was some metal on metal sounds part way through the rotation.

I'm thinking new brakes, bearings, and maybe even a master cylinder will run me upwards of $500 if done by a shop. If I can sell this one for maybe $300-400 and put that toward a replacement that's mechanically ready to roll, then that's going to be the plan for sure.
 

Silverbullet555

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Re: Help diagnosing / valuing 1997 trailer

That's kinda where I've gotten to as well... I did my own "inspection" of the wheels and with a jack under the axle, there was about a 1/4 inch of shimmy on one wheel, and maybe an 1/8" on the other. Both wheels were turning relatively freely, although there was some metal on metal sounds part way through the rotation.

I'm thinking new brakes, bearings, and maybe even a master cylinder will run me upwards of $500 if done by a shop. If I can sell this one for maybe $300-400 and put that toward a replacement that's mechanically ready to roll, then that's going to be the plan for sure.

Trailers that are ready to roll aren't cheap. If this trailer was set up properly for the boat I would just bring it up to snuff.

A new actuator, flush the brake lines, new brakes and bearings. It's not that hard to do the work and then you will know the condition. Surface rust can be scraped off and painted over pretty cheaply.

The drums are probably fine and just need to be cleaned. New bearings and some grease. If the zerk on the axles is on the spindle, they are EZ-lube axles which are nice.

If there is damage to the spindle, you could just replace the hole axle with brakes already attached, etc.

You can see if the seller will make any concessions, but don't be surprised if it is already built into the price.
 

Lakes84

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Re: Help diagnosing / valuing 1997 trailer

If the brake lines are all good, just replace the actuator and put disk brakes on instead of the drums and you should be good. If the actuator is rusted solid, I would venture to say your drums are close to shot as well....may be wrong, hope I am. Cost for actuator and 4 new disc brakes is around 700.00 if you do it yourself. If the brake lines are all good, this will be an easy job. (besides tackling the rusted on parts) Keep us informed!

See you on the lake

Joe
 
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