Help me reach my max speed

htuong95

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I have a 1979 Johnson 35hp @ 5500rpm model #35E79A. I am currently using a 10x13 prop and I was told my gear ratio is 14:27. How do I calculate my max speed? What prop size is best for max speed? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 

steelespike

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Re: Help me reach my max speed

Max speed depends heavily on the boat being driven.To keep it simple you could pick the most pitch and get the theoretical fastest speed.
Motor isn't likely able to spin it fast enough to do it.
Then there is the speed only dedicated prop probably need a special lower unit.but probably really fast on a super light boat.
Figuring speed is possible but is only good for ball park as boat weight,design,
setup makes speed vary lots.A gps is a better way to get the real speed.
Get us your boat type/brand, present max rpm and speed with the 10 X 13
we can give you an idea where your at and where you might be able to be.
 

steelespike

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Re: Help me reach my max speed

Without RPM figures can't really mak a prop decision.Do you know what the boat weighs dry?The hull design appears to be able to get up on the water well.
You have one of the lightest 35s at about 120 lbs.Rpm range is 5,500 to 5,800 so it will twist up pretty good.For now you should start by optimizing your setup. Check compression be sure throttle opens all the way and motor is in good tune.Starting with the antivent plate even with the bottom of the boat raise
the motor about 1/4 inch at a time till just before venting becomes a problem.
Be sure it pumps water and the clamps have a good grip.An inch in height could net 2 to 3 mph.Once you have the setup you may be able to further inhance it with a prop selection.You can't make a prop selection without the rpm. Without it it is a crapshoot both for performance and motor health.
You can get a tiny tach, easy to install,reasonable and fits any similar motor without regard to stator poles.You also may be able to borrow a shop tach or have a tech go to check rpm.
 

John_S

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Re: Help me reach my max speed

Over the years, I have strived for max speed from small outboards, including a '77 35hp Johnson. In the long run, including my current 18hp and 40hp Nissans, I prop for acceleration and control. They ended up being more important than squezzing the last mph out of it.

With small boats, people and gear make up a larger percentage of the total weight. The variability impacts reaching the required wot rpm range. Hence, many people recommend propping to your max load. If you prop toward a medium or light load, it will struggle to get boat on plane with heavier loads.

As suggested above, you can raise your motor on the transom to gain some mph. Most of the time, including your 35, you can only get about an inch, before the clamps are at the very top of the transom edge. A jack plate can get it higher but would be a waste on a boat like yours. If you do raise it some, after you test the high speed/straight performance and water/cavitation, make sure you also test the difference in turning radius at speed. I have had good straight-line performance, but cavitation on tight turns. If you have raised in more than 1/2" and are happy with all aspects of its performance, recommend adding the the trough transom mounting bolts, and not relying on the clamps alone.

FWIW, the '77 35hp Johnson on our 14' Alum Starcraft would hit about 28 mph with two adults and gear.
 

htuong95

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Re: Help me reach my max speed

Thanks for the help guys! I now have some ideas on getting my speed up. Thanks again.
 

donnymac

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Re: Help me reach my max speed

When you hit 5500rpm, you're basicly at top speed.
 
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