HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

BC111

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Hi I have MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark. when i turn the ignition key i get spark from my main wire on the distributor cap to ground . then when it starts to crank no spark. then when i stop turning key spark again. ps the eng. does not start please help Thanks Brian

1. my mercruiser 170 engine will crank over but it won't fire.
2. the battery post over heat after 10sec of starting.
3. when i did get it running; the throttle was forward to give it gas and afterward i returned it to neutral and then the engine shut off
THIS IS WHEN THE PROBLEM STARTED AND NEVER STARTED AGAIN
 

Don S

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

Welcome to iboats BC111

Could you please rephrase that so it means something.
 

solar7647

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

Hi I have MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark. when i turn the ignition key i get spark from my main wire on the distributor cap to ground . then when it starts to crank no spark. then when i stop turning key spark again. ps the eng. does not start please help Thanks Brian

What:confused:
 

cr2k

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

One possibility is the solenoid on the starter, I would put a volt meter on the + post on the coil and see what the voltage is during cranking. There is usually a wire that boosts the voltage to the coil to 12v to aid starting during the draw from cranking. If this is not working you will have hard or no starting.

This is not the only possibility but one that will cause the problem you speak of.
Other way to diagnose is to run a jumper form the +battery term to the coil if it starts then, well that is probably your problem. Fix is either a new solenoid or a relay installed to do the same as the solenoid.
 

zbnutcase

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

Ran into one yesterday with weak, yellow spark and no start. New condenser and it started right up. 'nutcase
 

BC111

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

i have electronic ignition i think there is no condenser
 

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

1. my mercruiser 170 engine will crank over but it won't fire.
2. the battery post over heat after 10sec of starting.
3. when i did get it running; the throttle was forward to give it gas and afterward i returned it to neutral and then the engine shut off
THIS IS WHEN THE PROBLEM STARTED AND NEVER STARTED AGAIN
 

solar7647

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

How do the spark plugs look?

Is there any damage to the plug wires? You could be loosing spark if the wires are shorting to the engine.

Are you getting power to coil?

Does it have a stator or alternator? Are you getting the proper amount of power from it?
 

BC111

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

new plugs and wires has a alt i just put an alt. conv kit in but problem started befor i put alt in
 

solar7647

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

I know this will sound funny but try another Battery. I had an issue last year that the motor would crank and crank but would not fire and it ended up being the battery even though it would crank the engine just fine. If that dosnt do it, it really is sounding like there is a problem with the ignition system. You said it has electric ignition, is this new or has it been on before the problem? I am not familiar with the electronic ignition conversion for the 3.7L, mine still has points, does it have a coil? if so do you have power to the coil?
 

q5ka

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

Well the problem seems to be one of two things. Spark or fuel. So after reading above, I am going to say try this.

Pull a plug and hook the spark wire to it. Turn it over for 2-5 seconds. Look at the spark color. Is it blue/white? If it is not, it could indicate bad spark which then work backwards. Swap the wire with another (new) one and see if any better. Then look at rotor and distributor cap for bad connection. After a inspection/cleaning of those and still a yellow/red spark, look at the coil. Try a different one as the coil could be going bad.

If all that was fine, then look at fuel. So grab the manual at the adults section and go to the fuel test section. You grab a jar, turn the motor over for so long and you should get so much fuel. That will tell you if the pump is fine. Then open the choke and look down the carb. While looking down the carb, fully open the throttle all the way. Did fuel squirt into the carb? If so then the accelerator pump is working. Do you smell fuel while looking down carb after turning it over a bit? If not, that could indicate a bad float or soemthing else bad with the carb.

If that is all good, pull each spark plug and look for color differences, defects, or wetness. While plugs are out, turn over the motor for about 2 seconds and look for anything comming out the plug holes. There should be nothing (no water vapor or mist of fuel as this would be bad and possible flooding of engine). The only thing left to do (that I can think of) is a compression/leak down test. I recommend the leak down as you can then see if you have a single bad cylinder and where it is leaking (ring, valve, head gasket). If you have low compression, it is not uncommon to not start.

If that is all good, you are in some magical twilight zone or skipped something thinking it should be good when that was infact the problem.

Good luck.
 

BC111

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

First off i would like to say thank you to all that helped. I appreciate it all. You are great bunch of guys. Now that said i fixed the problem I put the old points back in. There was a problem with the new electronic ignition they went bad when the voltage regulator went that's why i put the alt conversion kit in the first place. so thanks everybody for your help. Brian
 
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Willie Wharfer

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Re: HELP MERCRUISER 3.7 170 hp low spark

When you had the electronic ignition kit installed how was it wired? I just installed electronic ignition on my Mercruiser 120. The electronic ignition positive wire coming off of the sensor needs to be supplied with 12v at all times. The installation requires a connection to be made on one of the purple wires of your wiring harness, preferably the one that goes to the electric choke (if equiped, that is where mine is). If the red positive wire from the sensor was connected to the positive terminal of the coil, there is not 12v there at all times. My engine as I am sure yours, has a resistor wire that connects to the positive terminal of the coil. This resistor wire feeds the coil from a 12v source (purple wire) of your harness, the voltage recieved to the coil from this resistor wire is about 9 to 9.5 volts and should be under 4 amps...
There is a wire that connects the starter solenoid to the positive side of the coil. This wire is called the resistance bypass wire. When the starter is engaged to start the engine, 12v and about 10 amps are delivered to the positive side of the coil. Once the engine has started and the starter disengages, the coil recieves about 9v and just under 4 amps to the positive side of the coil from the resistor wire mentioned earlier.
My mercruiser would not fire and faulty points where suspected, I wanted to convert to electronic ignition so I did... The engine would not fire with the kit installed either. After some thought with a friend we decided to make a jumper wire from the positive side of the battery to the positive side of the coil (suspected the starter solenoid resistance bypass contact to be faulty) With this jumper it fired right up at the first turn of the key. (Remove jumper after started or coil will overheat an possibly damage electronic ignition.)
I am new to the iboats forums this is my first posting response/reply.
If anyone has anything they want to add in relation to Mercruiser ignition theory and or troubleshooting please do.
Hope this helps... Thank you!
 
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