Help on 2001 Mercury 4.3L - Idles Beautiful dies once the boat revs

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crashmaggio

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Hi All,

Sorry for the long post, just trying to get all the info out there in one shot that I normally see asked in these posts....

Long time listener, first time caller. I rebuilt a boat this summer that decided to go for a swim on it's own.

It's 4.3L Mercruiser Thunderbolt V - S/N 0M227756

After a few unsuccessful launches, here's where I'm at, hoping to pick the mind of the hive.

After getting the motor out of the water, it was drained, oil/filter has been changed to the point that I have 0 milking in the oil any more. Brand new fuel filter, fuel tank, lines, carb bowl and pump have all been drained and/or flushed. All hydraulic lines have been flushed with fresh oil, power steering was flushed with fresh oil. fresh oil in lower unit. Plugs have been pulled and are in good shape. I pulled the distributor cap and cleaned all the points and rebuilt the rotor. (I'm planning to change cap/rotor wires and plugs over the winter, ran out of "one more weekend" with the wife) I used the engine alignment tool when reinstalling the engine and new gimbal bearing and it will slide in and out with 2 fingers. I re adjusted all the throttle cables and shifter cables per the manual, I have nice tight engagement in the lower unit. Prop has no play on shaft.

The engine runs well on earmuffs in the driveway, I've had it running about 30 minutes 600rpm, no knocks, no ticks, beautiful smooth idle. The boat will sit and idle in the water all day same as in the driveway. I can cruise around the lake at around 2200 RPM 10MPH and it' would be happy to do that all day, not me.

Now the problem:

When I rev the engine to about 3/4 throttle, the boat will jump up on plane and gets up and goes for about 5-10 seconds around 3500-3600 RPM, then seemingly out of nowhere, it almost sounds like the motor trips on itself, and RPMs drop to around 2000RPM. If I leave the throttle in position, it'll struggle and work it's way up to RPMs again sometimes, but it normally dies.
If I cut the throttle back to an idle, it pretty much dies right away. Then it'll take 2-3 cranks of the motor to get it started again, rinse and repeat. I know the prop isn't cavitating because it was a strong running boat prior to the sinking, and RPMs never spike, they just kinda die.

My guess is I'm starving for gas, but I'm not getting the lean RPM revs that you would normally see when the mix gets lean. I'm also thinking I may have some contamination on the carb, maybe jets etc... when I drained the carb there was about 20/80 water gas mix in the bowl. Not sure how long it was in there. I'm going to get a carb rebuild kit and do a full rebuild based on this assumption.

Looking for other opinions or thoughts on what I could be facing here?
Any ideas how to test it without bringing the boat down to the launch for another unsuccessful launch?

Thanks in advance
 

Rick Stephens

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Definitely running out of fuel.It's a boat, they don't rev up when leaning out because they are under a 100% load all the time.

Kit the carb, kit the carb, kit the carb. Can't believe it wasn't on your first to do list before firing it up.

Check the tank vent
 

crashmaggio

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Thanks for the feedback. Carb Kit is on the way.. I've got one more weekend before the boat launch around here closes.. Crossing my fingers that this is really it this time
 

Scott Danforth

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you have water in your tank because your boat sank. unless you cleaned your fuel system from one end to the other, you are gong to have problems. by cleaning, I mean pulling the sender and cleaning out all the water and crud, then removing the pickup tube and anti-siphon valve and cleaning them, then moving on to the filter, pump and then carb.

also, systems like your starter, alternator, wiring harness, control cables and steering cable will soon start failing from being submerged.
 

Baylinerchuck

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Carb kit is a must, but definitely second digging into that tank. Drain every bit of fuel out of it. Since it was submerged, the likelihood that its contaminated with water is near 100%. Change the fuel filter, if it doesn’t have a water separating filter installed, now is a great time to do it.
 

crashmaggio

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Tank has been drained, opened and dried, I'm going to go back to that during the winter and replace the sending unit since the main body was bent, but all liquids were removed and tank dried out... Fuel Filter/Seperator was replaced new. Pump and fuel lines purged.
 
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Hi All,

Sorry for the long post, just trying to get all the info out there in one shot that I normally see asked in these posts....

Long time listener, first time caller. I rebuilt a boat this summer that decided to go for a swim on it's own.

It's 4.3L Mercruiser Thunderbolt V - S/N 0M227756

After a few unsuccessful launches, here's where I'm at, hoping to pick the mind of the hive.

After getting the motor out of the water, it was drained, oil/filter has been changed to the point that I have 0 milking in the oil any more. Brand new fuel filter, fuel tank, lines, carb bowl and pump have all been drained and/or flushed. All hydraulic lines have been flushed with fresh oil, power steering was flushed with fresh oil. fresh oil in lower unit. Plugs have been pulled and are in good shape. I pulled the distributor cap and cleaned all the points and rebuilt the rotor. (I'm planning to change cap/rotor wires and plugs over the winter, ran out of "one more weekend" with the wife) I used the engine alignment tool when reinstalling the engine and new gimbal bearing and it will slide in and out with 2 fingers. I re adjusted all the throttle cables and shifter cables per the manual, I have nice tight engagement in the lower unit. Prop has no play on shaft.

The engine runs well on earmuffs in the driveway, I've had it running about 30 minutes 600rpm, no knocks, no ticks, beautiful smooth idle. The boat will sit and idle in the water all day same as in the driveway. I can cruise around the lake at around 2200 RPM 10MPH and it' would be happy to do that all day, not me.

Now the problem:

When I rev the engine to about 3/4 throttle, the boat will jump up on plane and gets up and goes for about 5-10 seconds around 3500-3600 RPM, then seemingly out of nowhere, it almost sounds like the motor trips on itself, and RPMs drop to around 2000RPM. If I leave the throttle in position, it'll struggle and work it's way up to RPMs again sometimes, but it normally dies.
If I cut the throttle back to an idle, it pretty much stars then dies after a few seconds. Then it'll take 2-3 cranks of the motor to get it started again, rinse and repeat. I know the prop isn't cavitating because it was a strong running boat prior to the sinking, and RPMs never spike, they just kinda die.

My guess is I'm starving for gas, but I'm not getting the lean RPM revs that you would normally see when the mix gets lean. I'm also thinking I may have some contamination on the carb, maybe jets etc... when I drained the carb there was about 20/80 water gas mix in the bowl. Not sure how long it was in there. I'm going to get a carb rebuild kit and do a full rebuild based on this assumption.

Looking for other opinions or thoughts on what I could be facing here?
Any ideas how to test it without bringing the boat down to the launch for another unsuccessful launch?

Thanks in advance

Did you ever solve this issue?
 
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