Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

dazwitten

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Hi guys i am trying to find the year of my little backup evinrude (lighwin) 4hp looked on the plate there is no model number only a serial number :- 4106DC88664

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im trying to start it, it starts then kinda cuts out and i am unsure of how to start it as this little engine has two knobs plus a choke, so wonder if any one can enlighten me on the correct positions for these knobs

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nwcove

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

look on the powerhead, should be a nickel sized plug on it with numbers, that usually tells the tale.
 

F_R

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

4106D is the model number. C88664 is the serial number. It is a 1971. Made in Canada.

Unless you have good reason to believe somebody has messed with the knobs, don't go twirling them. You will only make it harder to diagnose the real problem.

But if you can't help yourself, the top one should be open 1-1/2 turns and the lower one 3/4 turn. That will get it close enough to get it started, but will be way further off than it probably is now. Readjust on a boat, on the lake, for best running. Top one affects idle speeds and lower one affects high speed operation. But there is a bit of interaction too.
 

tx1961whaler

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

Model 4106D = 1971 4hp Evinrude
 

Rick.

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Throttle to start position, choke on full, pump the bulb, pull the rope. At first sign of a sputter get the choke in half to all the way. Great little motors. I have the same one as yours. I put more hours on it every year than my main motor. Best of luck. Rick.
 

1946Zephyr

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

Sweet. I have one a year older than this one. Nice little motors. You'll love running it. Mix the fuel at 24:1 and you'll have a long lifer there. Some might say to use less oil, but don't listen to them :D Any less oil, those rods will heat up and come unglued.
 

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

You ask about year of manufacture, not model year. Outboards are frequently built a year ahead of the model year.

Your 1971 Model 'Rude could have actually been built in 1970.

One of the best, most loved outboards of all time.
 

Mas

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

All bushings? 16:1??

Mas
 

dazwitten

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

How about the two dials which are on these ? ive tried to leave them both kinda of in the middle ?
 

Rick.

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

All bushings? 16:1??

Mas
Manufacturer says 50/1 . I understand the idea of a little more oil but 16/1? My engine runs well at 50/1 and 30/1 but I'm just not convinced 16/1 is necessary. I mean no disrespect here, just really puzzled why the manufacture would recommend an oil mix that would destroy the motor. Rick.
 

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

OMC said 50:1. Conservatives say 24:1. BRP changes its mind regularly, but I have never seen a recommendation from a credible source for any richer than 24:1.

The outboard is now 40 years old and has probably run most of that time on 50:1 without the rods "heating up and coming unglued".

24:1 would be a safe, conservative mix. 50:1 would probably serve well for the next 40 years.

Were it mine, I would run 24:1, but I am from a different age on a different planet.
 

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Re: Help trying to determine build year of a evinrude (lightwin) 4hp

I was just curious if that motor used needle bearings on the rods and crank..or if they used bushings. I know pretty much since the late 50s and early 60s the recommendation was 50:1 ...just wondering if bushings were used & with better engineering allowing 50:1 to be used.

Mas
 

1946Zephyr

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Well, as I see it, 50:1 motors are those with needle bearing crank and rods (non-friction motors) '64 and later. Those with the bushings such as the Lightwins (friction motors) and such need a little more oil, because the fact that there is no needles at all. I say manufacturer's recemendations be damned. After all, OMC built 100:1 motors and payed dearly for it. So, are manufacturers recemendations gospel?

The TD model was built without needle bearings just as the 1970 Lightwin was, but it calls for 16:1 mix and some here say to run the Lightwin at 50:1. WHAT??? The clearances on the rods to crank are still basically the same, so what has changed? Not much. A big reason why so many TD's are still running today, is people who actually followed mixing instructions made them last. The 1952 Lightwin/JW is virtually built the same as the 1968 model, with the exception of some cosmetic changes in those 16 years, but the oiling instructions are different. I say the only thing that warrants less oil, is an improved design, not factory recemendations. I have a shattered rod and a scorched crank for this exact motor, because of too lean of oil mix, I'm sorry to say.

Myself, 24:1 is the leanest I would go, on a non bearing motor, but that's just my opinion. ;) Not to ruffle anyone's feathers here, but a wise man once told me that oil is the cheapest thing you'll ever put in an engine. First as being the least expensive fluid it'll consume and second, saving a lot of premature wear and costly repairs.

I think a lot of what's behind the change in oil mix recemendations in 1964 - 65 that a lot of people here talk about is the fact that the EPA and DEQ have beaten up on the manufacturers so much to the point, that they have came out and siad: "this is the mix your motors run on now" After all, it is these same people who wants Ford motor company to build an F350 to get 30 miles to the gallon. By the same token, these people want us to get our old smokey antique outboards out of the waterways. So when OMC decided in 1964 that motors run on 50:1, this most likely took the pressure off, from the environmentalists and the aforesaid government beurocracies. Later on, pressure got bad and these manufacturers are building four strokes, because more and more places are banning two stroke engines.

So as I see it, I think it's best to set a standard on oil mix, by the construction of the motor, not by what a sales brocure says.
 
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