Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

huskerdaninva

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Guys, when I pulled the drain plugs (Fill/Vent) from my lower unit there was what I consider to be a good amount of water that came out before any lubricant. (about 1/2 cup maybe?) The lubricant did'nt seem to have any metal shavings. Where is the lower unit likely taking on water? From the prop area seal? My fill plugs seemed to seep a bit. Also about how much lubricant should the lower unit hold? Not a lot of came out when I pulled both plugs. As I say in the title it is a 1969 Chrysler 70 hp. Model is 7071. Thanks!
Dan
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

You need to replace all the seals. Prop shaft, drive shaft (under the water pump), shift rod seal, and gaskets on the fill and drain plugs. The shaft seals are standard and can be bought at a bearing supply house. The shift rod seal was used on all engines up until about 1994 so order one at the Mercury dealer or right here at iboats.

The lower unit takes about 30 ounces of lubricant and it is important to be certain it is full so the top bearing is not starved.

NOW: when water gets into a lower unit, residual oil has additives that tie up free oxygen and in most cases, if the unit is not open, no rust will occur. HOWEVER: once you drain it, air gets in and rust can start. SO, it is best if you flush out the lower unit with solvent of some sort then squirt in a light oil until you can re-seal and re-fill it. If you are replacing the seals, might as well disassemble it and clean the gears. That is a two piece lower unit. There are seals under the washers on the top bolts, an O ring at the bottom of the long front stud, and a large O ring at the perimeter of the gearcase torpedo. Any of these areas could also be leaking. The rear gland held with two allen head screws is sealed to the case with an O ring but usually does not leak.
 

huskerdaninva

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

Thanks for the input Frank! I have ordered a seal kit for my LU. Sierra Kit 18-2631 which replaces the Chrysler number of FK-1061. Looking at my Glenn's manual I think I can tackle this endeavor. Anymore advice/sage wisdom Frank? Anyne else have any thoughts? Thanks...
Dan
 

mrwiggles2

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

Thanks for the input Frank! I have ordered a seal kit for my LU. Sierra Kit 18-2631 which replaces the Chrysler number of FK-1061. Looking at my Glenn's manual I think I can tackle this endeavor. Anymore advice/sage wisdom Frank? Anyne else have any thoughts? Thanks...
Dan

I did mine for the first time last year. Wasn't too bad, Frank and Mike helped me out and it went well. Hardest part was trying to figure out the little rubber seal that looks like a hockey puck, was orange in color. Went on the shift rod and it sits flush into a hole around the rod. It was a good lesson for me in tearing apart the lower unit, put a new water pump and housing on. Had a great time last year on the water with no issues.
 

huskerdaninva

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

Appreciate the support and info guys. I've got my LU torn down completely. I had a little trouble getting the keeper clip off of the main drive shaft just below the seal in the upper half of the LU. Now I've got to clean everything up nicely and wait on my kit to arrive. It's kind of neat, as I tear this motor apart I'm learning just how it functions. Nothing like a hands on edju-ma-cation. Later...
Dan
 

mrwiggles2

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

I felt the same way last spring, learning as I tore into it following the manuals black and white print. You definitely understand why everyone tells you not to loosen or remove the shift rod screw.

How do all the gears look in there? I was pleasantly surprised at how good the gears looked in mine. No metal shavings, everything moving very well for a 36 year old motor. I like my 70 hp. Lots of compliments on how quiet it is...
 

huskerdaninva

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

The gears and cups and bearings all look to be great. I need to check Lowe's/HD and see if they have a new/similar retaining clip for the drive shaft. I broke mine getting it off of the drive shaft.
How did you get that old shift rod seal out? I was looking at mine and trying to think of a way to get at it with out tearing up the aluminum case. Did you use any kind of additional sealant other than the big oval seal between the torpedo case and the upper section with the water pump? I really want this thing to be right and water tight.
My seal kit arrived yesterday and I'm chomping to get at it, but it has been raining hard for the better part of a day and a half and my garage likes to flood an inch or so when we get deluged so I have to wait until she dries out. Something about wet concrete floors and electricity, I don't know...
Dan
 

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit--UPDATE

Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit--UPDATE

OK folks, my LU has been cleaned up, re-sealed, and re-installed with nary and issue other than a little short patience at times. Everything moves smoothly as it should and shifts nicely. Should not have any LU leakage issues for awhile and I've got a little peace of mind too. Thanks for all of the help guys! :)
Dan
 

mrwiggles2

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

Good work Dan. I remember a few times losing my patience, but in the end it all worked out. You'll be really glad when you're on the water and you know you have a solid working unit.
 

Gdaddylogan

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Re: Help with 1969 Chrysler 70hp Lower Unit

Hay guys I see you have removed and replaced your lower units and I really could use some help with the removal of my lower unit. It is a chrysler 70hp 707HF. I have a removed and disconnected everything my book says to and it still will not come off. Am I missing something? I can turn the lower unit from side to side (only slightly because I fear breaking or bending something). I can see the water pump, water tube and drive shaft through the exhaust snorkel area that has been removed. The only thing I can figure is that the drive shaft may be seized onto the crankshaft. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks
 
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