help with new boat

[dmorrison]

Hello we are new to boating. We thought we got the "deal of the century" on a Volvo Penta AQ130C with a 270 stern drive, but... we had a rattle - by reading posts and buying the manual we dove in. In the Bellows we found 2 bearings that are "GONE" only pieces left. We just don't see in the Clymer Volvo work manual HOW to get those bearing in. These bearings are going around the driveshaft from the engine to the stern drive- all the area (once cleaned with brake cleaner) looks ok- the only area damaged was where the bellows connects- the metal is "boogered" but there was plenty of room for the bellows.

We don't know what part number we are looking for - is it 11013? do we buy 2? then there were two snap rings...

please can someone help?

D&D
:facepalm:

 

[Don S]

Re: help with new boat

I guess you've already learned that when buying old boats, there is no such thing as a "deal of the century". You always loose.

Next, your Clymers manual. IF you were to take your engine apart, and follow the instructions from that manual for reassembly and setting up, Your engine WILL NOT start or run.

At this point, I am going to give you links of things you need to read and links to the OEM manuals.

1. Here is how you replace the bearings in the flywheel cover http://www.4shared.com/account/document/wpCVjUgC/Flywheel_cover_bearings.html?sId=9oy67oH0AnpxcM8O

2. Engine and drive manuals
http://www.4shared.com/file/59747156/6c065c44/AQ130_thru_170_Serv_Man.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/51930153/3a7e6375/270_Outdrive_service_manual.html

3. Owners manual (VERY IMPORTANT)
http://www.volvopenta.com/volvopent...lication_search/pages/publication_search.aspx

4. Parts lists.
http://www.volvopentastore.com/

5. Just a lot of information you may need along the line.
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=468285

 

[PiratePast40]

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This is what the flywheel cover looks like that's in good shape:

This should give you an idea what to expect when you remove the shaft and old bearing.

If you've got something that looks like either one of these, you have bigger problems and will need to pull the engine to replace the flywheel cover:


There is a bearing that sits in a recess in the flywheel at the forward end of the shaft. You'll need to make sure that is also in good shape.

You're not the first one that has been to this rodeo so you've got plenty of people out here to lend a helping hand. Don't hesitate to call out for additional help.

 

[dmorrison]

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Pirate Past- ours definately DOES NOT look that bad- no crack on the sides- only the very end (on the lip) was marred-- we were told that just needs to be cleaned up. In the very first picture of the good ones--Our bearing piece would have come out of the this-- and would have gone around that drive shaft. I believe this drive shaft goes from the engine to the stern-
Don- I will check out those links- I appreciate it. I havent ran into a Clymer manual that wasn't a little off.. but so far it guided us to a coil issue...now if they would only print pictures in color!
We are ordering parts today- will let you know how it is going.

 

[dmorrison]

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ok Don- so we checked out the links- again thank you.. In the aq130c to 270 stern scematics we need numbers 61-65
Do we have to remove the motor and flywheel to replace?
if not-- do we install it on the shaft - out of the motor and then push the shaft back in and then put in the snap rings-
D&D

 

[Don S]

Re: help with new boat

In the aq130c to 270 stern scematics we need numbers 61-65
Do we have to remove the motor and flywheel to replace?

I have no idea which schematic from which link you are looking at.

Do we have to remove the motor and flywheel to replace?

Yes, if the bearings are in pieces, then the flex plate attached to the flywheel and the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft are probably damaged also.

The link on how you replace the bearings in the flywheel cover explains how it all goes together. You should have the single bearing housing, not two. There is also a seal on the flywheel side of the housing that will need replaced. To say nothing about getting all that rust and grit out of the housing before installing the new bearing.

 

[dmorrison]

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http://www.volvopentastore.com/Conn...*****.017416079--store_id.366--view_id.771690
sorry - I wasn't even thinking that you can't see what I see.... I put the link to the scheme above. You are correct that it is seals and one bearing... with snap rings-
I ordered parts today and should have them monday or tuesday- hoping that once we see them, we will figure out how they go in. I can post pics of our motor if that would help...
So after you look at the schematic that I included- can you tell me if the motor has to be removed? or HOW to get those parts installed? I really appreciate your help...

Feel Lost-
D&D

 

[Don S]

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So after you look at the schematic that I included- can you tell me if the motor has to be removed? or HOW to get those parts installed? I really appreciate your help...

I just answered that, yes, you have to pull the engine. and the instructions are in my original reply. but YOU have to download them and read them.

You need all parts, 61 through 65, if the snap rings are damaged in any way.

 

[dmorrison]

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Don- Thank you for answering- I did download those PDF's and I apologize for asking the same question twice- my husband just wanted to MAKE SURE- and after he got the answer -- the expression was still the same-- (not a pleasant one....) UGH- to move the motor out just to install these-
previous posts made us think that this was going to be easier than this.

again- thanks for the information- wish us luck

:facepalm:

D&D

 

[captmello]

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Pulling the engine is not that bad a job. And changing the bearings is a common task like PP40 said in an earlier post.

Feel free to ask questions as you go. Here is a link to my bearing replacement a couple years ago. i was a newbee, just like you guys.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=265021

While my setup used the two bearing flywheel cover, the job was about the same.

 

[dmorrison]

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Thank you captmello- WE will use your thread too... thank you. We will ask questions as we come upon them.

 

[dmorrison]

Re: help with new boat

We got the engine out today- new parts are supposed to be delivered tomorrow- the bell housing looks reall good inside-- and we are excited about getting the parts in and firing this boat back up!

 

[captmello]

Re: help with new boat

We got the engine out today- new parts are supposed to be delivered tomorrow- the bell housing looks reall good inside-- and we are excited about getting the parts in and firing this boat back up!

What...No pics?

 

[Silverbullet555]

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We got the engine out today- new parts are supposed to be delivered tomorrow- the bell housing looks reall good inside-- and we are excited about getting the parts in and firing this boat back up!

Man, you guys are fast. I have been stewing over pulling my motor for 2 weeks and you got it done in 4 days. Kudos to you!

 

[PiratePast40]

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While you've got the engine out of the way, would be a great time to change the blower hoses and check the overall condition of everything back there. Those hoses get brittle and fall apart over time. Would also be a good idea to install a water separator/fuel filter if you don't have one.

The steering arm grease zerk is back there and can get neglected when it's time to grease things so might want to check that one too. If you find that the steering is stiff, and the bearings need to be replaced, there is a little less work changing the bearings now instead of when the engine is in the way.

Don't mean to be writing up a chore list for you, just pointing out some things that I've seen.