Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration SPLASHED!

[rickryder]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

As far as the stringers go, I plan on doing the cap method. I have watched too many guys struggle and struggle with one full piece, so I decided not to go that way.

That's what I did Jay. I put a few layers of 6oz cloth strips over my tops and had no real air bubbles to speak of.

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Well I got a little work done on the boat this afternoon. The video camera had a dead battery so pictures will have to work for now. I got the keyhole cut out and got the two main stringers cut and roughed in. I still need to cut them to hight, but I can do that later.

I have a question. Being this is my first stringer bedding I would like to know the best way to do this. here is what I was thinking of doing

1. Use small slivers of pink foam to hold the stringers off the hull about 1/2"
2. Squirt PL under the stringer and mush it in with a tongue depressor
3. Come back with PB and make my Fillets. I really do not like to use Pl for fillets as it tends to bubble as it dries.

Does this sound good?

Also I am seeing people tab in the strings with CSM first and then use 1708. Why is that? The 1708 has CSM on it's back? That stuff just will not lay down, and the 1708 goes down like butta!


The black line is the Deck height. I will cut that later

This is actually where the main stringers stop. It steps in here and continues to the front.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Well you could do it like that, but... I would just use a Magic Marker to outline the stringer config. Lift it out and then pump the PL in between the Marks then set the stringers back in and gently mush em down and fillet em in. I don't think you need the foam tabs. You can but NOT necessary. bubbles in the PL will not hurt. You're gunna be glassin. The PL HAS to cure 48 hrs before you can lay the 1708 and apply any PB. I would also round over the top edges of the stringer when you bring em to final height. Makes layin the 1708 over the top a lot easier. Another trick is on your TOP cap of 1708 for the stringer PRE bend some creases in the cloth before you install it. It helps BREAK the fibers a bit and helps em LAY down when the resin hits em.

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Well you could do it like that, but... I would just use a Magic Marker to outline the stringer config. Lift it out and then pump the PL in between the Marks then set the stringers back in and gently mush em down and fillet em in. I don't think you need the foam tabs. You can but NOT necessary. bubbles in the PL will not hurt. You're gunna be glassin. The PL HAS to cure 48 hrs before you can lay the 1708 and apply any PB. I would also round over the top edges of the stringer when you bring em to final height. Makes layin the 1708 over the top a lot easier. Another trick is on your TOP cap of 1708 for the stringer PRE bend some creases in the cloth before you install it. It helps BREAK the fibers a bit and helps em LAY down when the resin hits em.

Great advise on the tops. The only thing I was worried about with just setting the stringer in the bed of PL was the weight. I thought it would push out the Pl and touch the hull. That was my thought behind the foam.

Wood- Can you send me a PM. I need to speak to you about something and your inbox is full.

 

[69rrvert]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Jay, it looks like the project is moving along pretty fast now that all the cutting and grinding is behind you. Keep up the good work. You are an inspiratation to all of us. Let me know when you are coming down to Houston again. I'll let you do the grinding on mine so I can get started on putting it back together. I believe that is my problem. I hate fiberglass with a passion and do not look forward to the grinding. Thanks, Steven

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Jay, it looks like the project is moving along pretty fast now that all the cutting and grinding is behind you. Keep up the good work. You are an inspiratation to all of us. Let me know when you are coming down to Houston again. I'll let you do the grinding on mine so I can get started on putting it back together. I believe that is my problem. I hate fiberglass with a passion and do not look forward to the grinding. Thanks, Steven

I know what you mean about the glass. I work with it every day at work so I am somewhat tolerant to it. I just hate the mess it makes. The only way to really clean it out is with water.

 

[clockwatcher]

You know your resin and chopped fibers makes a superior bonding agent. You could put it in the fridge for a while before adding hardener to extend your working time. If you have the time you could cut your tabbing cloth and put it all down wet on wet and be done with it. Knock it out quick.

Oh also, wood made a great suggestion of creasing your cap cloth overnight. Excellent idea.

 

[DanielR]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Great progress updates.
Looks like you are one step ahead of me on the project (im about to put transom ). What was your plan of building transom to meet merc spec 2-2 1/4" thickness.
Currently my transom is 1.5in thick (2x 3/4" ply and csm between), plus my outside existing wall has maybe 1/8th of an inch. That leaves me with question of which material to add to meet required thickness.

 

[rickryder]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Great progress updates.
Looks like you are one step ahead of me on the project (im about to put transom ). What was your plan of building transom to meet merc spec 2-2 1/4" thickness.
Currently my transom is 1.5in thick (2x 3/4" ply and csm between), plus my outside existing wall has maybe 1/8th of an inch. That leaves me with question of which material to add to meet required thickness.

Add a piece of 1/2 ply plus your coats of glass should put you around 2 1/4"

 

[rickryder]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

You know your resin and chopped fibers makes a superior bonding agent. You could put it in the fridge for a while before adding hardener to extend your working time. If you have the time you could cut your tabbing cloth and put it all down wet on wet and be done with it. Knock it out quick.

Oh also, wood made a great suggestion of creasing your cap cloth overnight. Excellent idea.

You could also 1/2 cut the biax....just cut the csm backing on your fold line....

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Once it was all said and done I am 1/8 of an inch off from top to bottom. The top is thinner. I wonder if that is going to cause a problem.

 

[rickryder]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Once it was all said and done I am 1/8 of an inch off from top to bottom. The top is thinner. I wonder if that is going to cause a problem.

I take it your talking about your transom thickness? I'm no expert on transoms but maybe lay some 1708 in the low area to build it up?
I am sure one of the guys will chime in with a suggestion.

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Yes transom thickness. 2 1/4 is maximum.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Can you mic your cutout opening for your outdrive? What Thickness variation does it have? Or is that what you are talking about? By the way my inbox is empty now. I think you have a 1/8" to play with.

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Yes that is what I am talking about. I will send you a message later. I have to run to a meeting.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

This Might Help ya some.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=300283&page=1

 

[Josh P]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Hey jay, thanks for stopping and checking out my thread... watching your video on glassing in your transom was helpful.. Thanks for that..looking good by the way

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Hey jay, thanks for stopping and checking out my thread... watching your video on glassing in your transom was helpful.. Thanks for that..looking good by the way

No problem. I am glad I could help.

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

This was a very productive weekend. I am sunburned and the stringers and main bulkheads are cut and once side resined. Cutting stringers is HARED WORK! My father in law came over and helped me and that really helped alot. I ran into a few snags throughout the process but I was able to recover and move on down the road.

Here are some pictures and a video. The video is not my best, but I was really moving this weekend and my brain was on auto pilot.

I went ahead and cut out the rest of the front stringers and started from scratch.

New front stringers

Test fitting the gas tank

Using oops method of tracing the stringers

 

[Friscoboater]

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

A coat a slow kick Poly so it will soak in.

Video