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SpinnerBait_Nut

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I'm pretty sure that is an altered pic. I am been up close and personal with a live cougar and the proportions of the cat in this pic are exaggerated in comparison to the man.
Jay, snopes reports the pic is real, just the story about it is different.
 

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I have a photograph of myself and a tame, adult cougar that I am trying to find -when I do i'll post it. What hit me about the pic here is that I don't remember "my cat" being anywhere that big and he was an adult male, weighing in at 200 pounds. As I understand it, this is pretty much normal size.

I suppose there are always animals of any species that are unusually large and perhaps this is just such a case.
 

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That's a lot of sweet and sour chicken right there!
 
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I relly think I would have fired a warning shot into the ground to try to spook it first..... However..... I have a friend that shot a 25 lb bobcat that was going to attack.

It's the biggest I have ever seen.

I think he should have tried to scare it away before just killing it,but if he was that afraid maybe so. I think he needs to take up fishing
 

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sort of a hoax...the pic is real, but the location is not, according to this site - which shows the exact same picture
lion2.jpg

museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/548/

Mountain Lion Email Hoax
image Quite a few people have received this picture in their email showing a man holding up a giant (dead) mountain lion. According to the accompanying text, the lion was shot by the man near Leon, Kansas while he was out deer hunting, though different versions of the email list different locations. Is the picture real? It is. But the accompanying text is incorrect. According to this article on Buckmasters.com, the lion was actually shot near Seattle, Washington. The picture first appeared in Fair Chase magazine, published by the Boone and Crockett Club, before it spread to email.
Yea, pretty much what the snopes article said.
 

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What a shame! I'm not a supporter of PETA or anything like that but I do like big cat. Dude should have just scare it away instead of killing such a magnificient animal. Come on....it wasn't like the cat was in his backyard stalking him. The hunter was in the cat's backyard.
 

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I dont care where Im at, My backyard, its backyard....The zoo :) .....If there is something there that I think is gonna eat me and I have a gun.......its dead.
 

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I did some surfing on it last night, including the Snopes info. The story has been repeated in the form of the cat stalking the hunter in Oklahoma, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Idaho. It was originally on a site called "24hourcampfire.com" and, supposedly, was shot in Washington State. The guy in the photo is said to be a friend of the guy who actually shot it. The person pictured is 5'10", not 6'0", and weighs 175 pounds. The cat is supposed to have weighed 190 pounds.

It may be possible that this is for real but I still have some doubts. First, if you look at the thickness of the body compared to the man, this cat would have weighed a great deal over 190 pounds. Also, look at the size of the head compared to the size of the man's head - its huge.

The pic below is of another cat that is made to look very large but look at the dogs too - they are in proportion to the cat but not to the men behind. This pic has obviously been altered.

BigCougar2.jpg


Here's another pic of a cat that looks like it is in proportion to the hunter. The body has a normal, leaner look and the head is more in proportion to the man.

NormalCougar.jpg


Once again, I'm not saying that the pic is absolutely a hoax but its pretty unlikely that its "real" (as in unaltered). Cougars have been known to weigh as much as 260 pounds but those are very rare. According to some info that I found, the average adult male ranges from 160 lbs to 200 lbs in weight. If this is, in fact, for real, I hope the guy who shot it has entered it into some kind of record book.
 

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picture title for image in the OP

.... Two steppin with a fat old cougar....
 

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Sheesh, That's one big cat! If I was out in the woods, or mountain biking, I'd hafta be "packin"!
 

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Cougars, Mountain Lions or whatever there called wander through my area every few years. I've seen there tracks in my yard and my neighbor had his horses attacked once by something that he and the vet believe was a cougar. There was a story in the paper last fall that said some one had sighted one. He is believed to still be around here somewhere. The Cougars avoid people though, so a occasional glimpse of them is all we usually get. I avoid them by not wandering around in the woods after dark. You would be in big trouble around here if you shot one. If he is causing you problems your suppose to call the Sheriff and the police or MN DNR will come out and trap or shoot him.With a dart if they can.
 

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That is a big cat, if he is 6' then I would do the same as him and shoot the cat before it get me. Survive of the species...:0 :D
 

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NO warning shot needed. big Cat is a predator. Man was prey. Shoot the big cat. :eek:
 

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Adult humans are not on the menu for mountain lions, unless you happen to be badly wounded in the middle of the woods or something. Otherwise they won't mess with a full grown human. Kids yes, midgets yes, small asians, possibly, but not a 6' tall adult.

I agree with the above... hate peta, but still think it's a shame they are being brought to the brink of extinction. Heck, 75% of kids today have no idea there's a lion native to north america.
 

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Adult humans are not on the menu for mountain lions, unless you happen to be badly wounded in the middle of the woods or something. Otherwise they won't mess with a full grown human. Kids yes, midgets yes, small asians, possibly, but not a 6' tall adult.

Tell that to the families of the adult humans that have been killed by mountain lions. I distinctly remember hearing of several in Southern California.

I am quite sure they would agree..................NOT!!!

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If I ever run across a case where an adult human has been killed by a mountain lion, I'll gladly recant that. But so far I havn't, and you'll have to be a little more specific than that.
 

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Here you go.
This is just in California.

http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/lion_attacks_ca.html

Here is another

http://www.uwsp.edu/wildlife/carnivore/Felid Attacks_files/Felid Attacks_copy(1).htm#Cougar Attacks

A quote from the previous site.
Children appear to be slightly more at risk than adults; however, cougars attack people of all ages (Table 3; Figure 6). Children are probably at a greater risk of being attacked because they more closely resemble the normal prey size of a cougar. It should be pointed out though, that although children are at a greater risk of attack, the number of fatal attacks is spread fairly evenly across age cohorts.

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You're right, I stand corrected...

1890 19 June. (Attack #1, death #1). A 7-year-old boy was killed by two lions... wait, no, not that one, that was a kid.

1909 5 July. (Attack #2, deaths #2 and 3). A rabid lion injured a woman and child in Morgan Hill, Santa Clara County. Both died of rabies. Ok technically, since it was rabid, it did attack an adult, but didn't kill her (the rabies microorganism gets that kill), and the lion didn't eat her either, nor was it trying to. In short they wern't on the menu, it was just rabid and attacking anything that moved, and probably some things that didn't move.

1986 March. (Attack #3) A lion attacked a 5-year-old girl... clearly not wrong there.

1986 October. (Attack #4) A 6-year-old boy... clearly not wrong there.

1992 12 March. (Attack #5) A 9-year-old boy... nope.

1993 August. (Attack #6) A 6-year-old boy... nope

1993 September. (Attack #7) A young cougar bit a 10-year-old girl... still nope

So in 103 years, only 1 mtn lion attacked an adult, and it was rabid, and didn't kill her, and didn't eat her.... let's continue to the latest and most interresting ones...

1994 23 April. (Attack #8, death #4) Barbara Schoener, 40... ok there it is, an adult... but wait... startled by the lion on the bluff above her, she fell off an 80' cliff... once mortally injured, the lion finished her off and did eat her... so no, I still don't stand corrected on that one...

1994 16 August. (Attack #9) 50-year-old Troy Winslow, wife and friend... I'll spare the long story and just say you can't count this one, as they hunted the lion down, threw rocks at it, and stabbed it to death... it didn't attack them, nor was it the aggressor in the situation.

1994 10 December. (Attack #10, death #5) Iris M. Kenna, a 5-foot-4 and no more than 115 pounds, 56-year-old woman... so a small elderly woman... ok, I DO stand corrected on this one, as I didn't mention small elderly people before... and to be fair, 56 isn't all THAT elderly, but it is still elderly, and 5'4" isn't THAT small, but it is below average. But I do stand somewhat refuted by this one. I still wouldn't have any problem with standing next to a wild one.

lets continue...

1995 20 March. (Attack #11) Scott Fike, a 27-year-old cyclist was "cut" by a cougar. If that's actually true then I completely stand corrected, of course I don't believe his story. He did after all, get a mountain lion rug out of the deal after "the" (more like a) cougar was tracked down and killed.

2004 8 January. (Attacks #12 and 13; death #6) 35-year-old Mark Jeffrey Reynolds now if this one is true, then I'm obviouly wrong... but wait... "However, the autopsy results apparently show no damage to his neck at all, or any damage indicative of an actual attack that caused his death. The speculation that fits the facts best is that Mark had a heart attack while riding his bike" Um, yeah, so not wrong there.

2004 26 June. 27-year-old Shannon Parker of Santa Monica, California, was attacked... I do have to stand corrected on this one. The story is clearly believable and does appear that the lion was attempting to prey. Although technically she didn't die, and the cougar that attacked her was starving to death.

2007 24 January, 70 yr old elderly man was attacked.

So in 118 years there has been all of THREE instances that refute my earlier statement, and TWO of those had special circumstances.... so only one really refuted it.

So... overall I still say I'm right, and I'd be willing to back it up with my own life on the line standing next to a full grown mtn lion... oh, and the second site only makes theorizations about the data on the first site, which, quite frankly, just about anyone here is capable of doing after reading the data.

In any case, it goes to show that the whole "I had better make a rug out of it before it eats me" excuse is hogwash.
 
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