Heroes And Cowards

crunch

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What do you want Tree? Believe it or not, we just don't have the tech yet to issue a "New Generation" force field. :p
 

POINTER94

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Did you guys even read that report Tree posted? It says we are doing a great job getting the equipment to the theater and retrofitting the existing. It simply echo's Crunch's assertion that the troops are not only well equipted but the best equipted fighting force the world has ever seen. Read the post.


Recent media reports and a three-page summary from a classified Defense Department Inspector General report suggest the Army may have difficulty meeting its equipment requirements with regard to the recently announced troop increase in Iraq. These media reports are inaccurate and paint an incomplete picture.

The Army began the Global War on Terrorism with equipment shortages totaling $56 billion from previous decades. In the last several years, the Army has transformed itself more than any other military in history and rapidly acquires ever-improving equipment on a scale not seen since World War II. This agility was forced by the reality of the battlefield: urban combat, the enemy’s selection of casualty producing weapons like Improvised Explosive Devices, and the need to operate in dispersed locations across vast distances are examples. As the combat environment our Soldiers fight in continues to change, the requirements for the type of equipment necessary to fight successfully and win also change.
 

crunch

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I read it Pointer, and it only said what the link I posted said....

How Tree got:

With that being said, would you send troops into either Iraq, are Afghanistan, with out the proper training and equipment?

is beyond me..... People hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest.

Artist and year Ray. :p
 

treedancer

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Quote crunch

People hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest.



Your right here, especially the part about disregards the rest.

Thanks for reading the whole article pointer.
 

Bondo

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The Army began the Global War on Terrorism with equipment shortages totaling $56 billion from previous decades.

What Isn't mentioned here is the Raping of the Military by,.............
The Clinton regime.......
 

rmmpe

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SBN,

As an argument between the Sage and Moronic, why not delete this topic?
 

Haut Medoc

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You are correct of course that we did not invade Iraq ONLY TO FREE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM A BRUTAL TYRANT,
Ol' Murky, thanks for acknowledging my point......
I really was just trying to illustrate how some cling to the same old tired justifications for the war....
I didn't know Iwas setting up a 'straw man' debate with you......
But, on point # 1, Saddy was in no position to attack anyone in 2003......
On point #2, you are basically saying this war is for oil...
#3 if true, who cares, they don't have oil either!:)
#4, Yep, he used what we gavehim.....
Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, I say!...
Although, in 'W's" defense I must say that Saddy bluffed.....
Don't bluff with a busted straight, bad idea!:p
#5 He didn't have to do anything after Afghanistan, he acted cause he wanted to, & chose what he felt was the weakest link.....
OOPS!
"There I go again!".....:)
 

OldMercsRule

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Haut said:
You are correct of course that we did not invade Iraq ONLY TO FREE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM A BRUTAL TYRANT,
Ol' Murky, thanks for acknowledging my point......
I really was just trying to illustrate how some cling to the same old tired justifications for the war....
I didn't know Iwas setting up a 'straw man' debate with you......
But, on point # 1, Saddy was in no position to attack anyone in 2003......
On point #2, you are basically saying this war is for oil...
#3 if true, who cares, they don't have oil either!:)
#4, Yep, he used what we gavehim.....
Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, I say!...
Although, in 'W's" defense I must say that Saddy bluffed.....
Don't bluff with a busted straight, bad idea!:p
#5 He didn't have to do anything after Afghanistan, he acted cause he wanted to, & chose what he felt was the weakest link.....
OOPS!
"There I go again!".....:)

Why YES: "There you go again" me Bro. Now that you engaged me we have only one minor li'l issue that is not based upon symantics or positive vs negative outlook, (typical of Lib vs Cornservative debates me Bro). On point #1 you are correct in your statement, (as usual). But: he WAS ATTACKIN' US n' the BRITS on nearly a daily basis wasn't he? Did the terms of ol' Sadam's surrender in '91 allow him to shoot at our aircraft me Bro? Jus' thought that minor li'l point was worth ponderin' a minute or two! (Me thinks that's one o' the reasons Congress authorized "Regime Change" in 1998 like Mr. Clinton requested, (those hawish Dems voted that way too me Bro), HMMMMM? Respectfully, JR:love:
 

Haut Medoc

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I'm not saying it was wrong ....
It just bugs me when they white wash it & sugar coat it.....
That's all......
He had to shoot at our aircraft to keep/save face with the people......
He was in no position to start another ground war....;)
 

OldMercsRule

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Haut said:
I'm not saying it was wrong ....
It just bugs me when they white wash it & sugar coat it.....
That's all......
He had to shoot at our aircraft to keep/save face with the people......
He was in no position to start another ground war....;)

That's a Big 10 - 4 Bro Haut. Me thinks it was more then jus' ol' George Bush that wanted to take down Iraq, (but I only got one cell ya know). That is what bugs me most about Libs n' Dems. THEY VOTED FOR THE OPTIONAL WAR TOO! And: it still might work me Bro! So why cause a defeat when we might actually win this one? If Iraq can get it together, (n' I feel it's more important then the Balkins: Bro, [but only one cell n' all]), why not have 'em as allies? It's hard ta sink a runway out in the sand in ol' Iraq me Bro. 8)8) Respectfully, JR
 
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