hi, i'm boat stupid

KRS

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Is it just me, or does that trim anode appear to be painted?
 

mind

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bondo, when you edited your post you took out some info i needed.<br /><br />you said it was a L-drive force or something???<br /><br />i still don't know what type of motor i have, or how to look search for the impeller part i need. <br />is this part assosiated with the engine that i have?<br /><br />is the impeller located on the engine or on the outside part of the drive???
 

saxis

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Welcome to iBoats!<br /><br />I'm still a nautical newb myself, but I'll just leave you with the first response I got when asking about my outboard:<br /><br />Find out the year/model of your motor, and buy a manual!<br /><br />I know it saved me alot of time/money in the long run!
 

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Originally posted by Bondo:<br /> Btw,........ You'll have Much Better Luck finding Answers to your Questions,......<br />If you post in the Force & Chrysler Troubles/Repair Forums,....... Just Click Here...........
As I said above,.......<br /><br />Your boat is powered by a Force(that's the Manufacturer, who's Out of Business) Motor,+ an L-Drive, also made by Force.......<br /><br />If you go up to the forum that link will bring you to,.....<br />You'll be chatting with some fellas up there who have a Much Better handle on How to Fix, or Service Your Driveline(motor,+ drive)...........<br /><br />What you have Isn't commonly known as an I/O, even though technically it is......<br />What it Is,.... Is a Force Outboard Powerhead,... Mated to a Force L-drive.......<br /><br />Sooo,...... It's Much More a Force Outboard, than Anything Else..........<br /><br />Btw,.... The Waterpump Impeller I Believe is In the Lowerunit........
 

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You bought a boat knowing nothing about boats and now have a pile of problems.<br /><br />Imagine how bad things will get when get out on the water and knowing nothing about how to operate that boat, coast guard regulations, what those floating mutli-colored things in the water mean, and how quick you can lose a life.<br /><br />Time to take a boat course. Its worth the $40 or so for the Boat Smart course to save the life of you and your loved ones.
 

bomar76

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I wish you the best of luck....you are gonna need it with a Force L Drive.
 

rogerwa

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I've never seen an l-drive before.. thanks for the pics.
 

Gary H NC

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That was a first to me too Roger.Interesting looking setup.<br />Looks like fun to work on.I wonder how quite it is.Looks well insulated.
 

roscoe

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As Bondo said... <br />You have a Bayliner boat<br />A Force powerhead from a 2 cycle Force outboard<br />And a Force L-Drive, part of which is also taken from a Force outboard.<br /><br />Its a bit of an extinct hybred.<br />Most shops won't work on them.<br />Very hard to find parts for the drive unit.<br />No other drive will hook up to the powerhead.<br />The ignition system is ..... fun.<br /><br />The muffs will not work for your unit, get a barrel or tank.<br />Even a big wooden shipping crate will work if you caulk the cracks.<br /><br />You can get a special waterhose attachment from Mercury for that motor, part number 819069T about $65 at any Mercury dealer.<br /><br />Sorry to bring you the bad news, but it will be a good learning project/experience.<br /><br />You need a good manual.<br />The Clymer Force repair manual is good.<br />Or look on ebay and see if you can find a factory L-drive manual.<br /><br />They made 3 models of your motor in 1990, a b and c. You have a "c" model, (the last letter in the model number).<br /><br />Here is a link for all the diagrams for your "c" model motor.<br /><br />mercruiserparts.com/Show_Pictures3.asp?dnbr=FOB4540&ivar=images/FORCE/FOB4540/33.png&inbr=1342&bnbr=150&bdesc=GEAR+HOUSING<br /><br />
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<br /><br />You should replace the waterpump housing, gaskets, plate, and impeller, parts 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 in the picture above. <br />You have to get these from a Mercury dealer, or a Mercury dealer online, like mercruiserparts.com <br />I think all these parts are included in the waterpump kit from Mercury, part number FK1204-1 WATER PUMP KIT<br /><br /><br />To change the waterpump and impeller, you need to remove the gear housing from the L-drive. Then you slide the old waterpump off of the driveshaft, and replace it with the new one. <br /><br />It is my understanding that only the 1992 model had an oil injection system. So you will need to mix oil with the gas as you put it in the gas tank. <br />50:1 50 parts gas, 1 part oil.<br />2.6 ounces of oil to 1 gallon of gas.<br /><br /><br /> So I believe the tank and pump you referred to is the tilt and trim pump, which is a hydrolic system to raise and lower the drive unit. Raised for trailering, lowered for use, raised SLIGHTLY for optimum performance. Here is a picture of the hydrolic trim pump and reservoir.<br />
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<br /><br /><br />Anymore questions, feel free to ask?<br /><br />That's why we're here. :)
 

mind

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wow that is some awesome info thanks!!<br />it's actually a differnt tank i was wondering about.<br />but that trim pump reservoir is another problem. it is cracked and leaking :( i found the replacement on mercruiserparts.com, but it's $238 or something crazy. i'm going to try and repair the one i have. guess i'll order the water pump kit and manual.<br />thanks!
 

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ohhhh, the horror! aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh<br /><br />death, take me NOW!!!<br /><br /><br />ps, welcome to iboats. its ok, we all learn. thats why iboats.com is here.<br /><br />you have perhaps THEE most unwanted combonation in boating. ... bayliner+force+Ldrive.<br /><br />oh well, we can all work together to help you maximize your time on the water.<br /><br />my first post here was how to tell if my boat had a tell tale or not.... now, 3 years later, i run my own sid ebusiness fixing and repairing boats, motors, trailers and the such.<br /><br />this is a great place!
 

Gary H NC

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You ever sleep Mike? LOL.<br />I feel better about my OMC now.
 

Mark42

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You might want to check out e-bay for parts if you haven't already. Tons of boat stuff on e-bay.<br /><br />Also, call the marine liquidators/salvage if you need specific motor parts. You might get lucky and be able to pick up an entire out drive or power head cheap as spare parts.<br /><br />I wonder how big a project it would be to convert that boat to an outboard configuration?
 

phatmanmike

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I wonder how big a project it would be to convert that boat to an outboard configuration?
simple.<br /><br />remove ENTIRE drive system and toss in fire.<br /><br />cover and fill hole in transom , bolt on STAINLESS MARINE bracket, bolt on a merc v6 and never look back
 

mind

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lol...yeah all kinds of thoughts have gone through my head. like how can i make the ls1 in my garage work in that boat.<br /><br />i have a manual and water pump kit on the way. it's a nice lookin boat to me. i'll try and enjoy my blissfull ignorance while i can.<br />thanks for everyone's help
 

cobra 3.0

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From the looks of the few pics, it seems to be a well taken care of boat. Maybe you'll be lucky and get a few good years out of it. Good luck and enjoy!
 

StratMan290FS

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Hmmm... just a quick thought here, chances are the water pump/impeller need to be changed. Especially when in doubt of their last replacement, but if you say the buzzer/alarm went off as soon as you started it, you may want to make sure it is actually overheating and not a faulty alarm. An engine cannot overheat that quickly when fired from a cold state.
 

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Your Best Move at this point,......<br />Would be to get it Running,+ Spiffy it Up,+ Sell It................ :rolleyes: <br /><br />They've built That Hull,.... With Much Better Drivelines,....... For Years...... Millions of Them........
 
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