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jonesg

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Gerard, I'm a recovered alcoholic.
Heres some experience strength and hope, emphasis on Hope .

I recovered by working the 12 steps with an AA sponsor.

I'm not religious , the only thing I know about God is I ain't God.
I used the religion excuse myself early on,
but if there is a God, does He want religious nuts or spiritual fruits?

I was atheist too, err...I got a bit of a surprise.

If anyone can control their intake they aren't alcoholic.
Its just that simple.

The test for alcoholism in AA is very simple, its in the big book.
"If when drinking you cannot control how much you will drink ...or...if you just can't leave it alone then you are probably an alkie."

I once stopped drinking for 5 yrs, by the end of those 5 yrs I was more insane than I had ever been in my life, stark raving sober. Screaming at other cars, you've seen em out there, probably me 10 yrs ago.
When my partner died and i started thinking suicide and the thought occured to me that I was happier when I was drinking (theres the delusional part ) so I started again and within 6 months I was being advised by a shrink to try AA.
I didn't like meetings but I learned "the program" isn't meetings, the program is actualy the 12 steps. And thats what I did, it took 2 weeks and I've never looked back, I still attend the occasional meeting. My reason to go is to carry the message of recovery. My purpose is to guide others through the steps.

Its interesting that 97% of those in AA meetings have never tried the steps, so what you might hear in AA is very likely to have nothing to do with our solution.
Many languish for yrs in meetings, not getting sane and mistakenly thinking science is gonna come up with a magic pill. There is no God pill.
If they invented one I wouldn't take it, no pill could undo the damage and harm I caused others the way I undid it by making direct amends and asking their forgiveness. Theres no dodging that.

Listen to this, good stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bbaRyDLMvA
 

SuzukiChopper

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What's up Chopper? Another good way to ease your mind when the thought of drinking is crushing in is to get some strenuous exercise. Do some push-ups or take a run 'til your heart feels like it's going to explode. It might sound crazy, but works great. I've found it helps curtail my exploits.

Anyway, if you're a man that can survive the bitter cold of BIG CANADA, then you won't have any problem with this. You hold the beer, not vice versa.

Good luck to ya ~ BOB

That's kind of another reason of mine for doing this. Once upon a time I was 300lbs. Found out I had diabetes and had lost 60lbs in 2 weeks because I was do damn sick. Went back up to 260lbs, then one day decided it was time to work out. Slimmed down to a healthy 180lbs and was building muscle. After a while at the new job I stopped working out but maintained my weight pretty well. Then the drinking started. I'm about 220lbs now (mind you, 6'4") but I look like I'm 260lbs again. As for the bitter cold, us prairie boys seem to get the worst of it :)

Also, thank you for the encouragement. Day 4 today and other then battling insomnia... it's even better today then yesterday.

Bond-O said:
Now,.... If I could just give up Smoking as Easily as it was for Me to Quit Alcohol,......

That's another habit of mine I've been trying to kick too. Doubt that one will be as easy but I think getting past the booze might be a good kick for me :p

You also brought up something else that has been on my mind. I don't want to completely give up drinking. I want to still be able to enjoy a SOCIAL drink with friends once in a while, but like has been said... I hold the beer, the beer doesn't hold me. I'm heading over to my parents tonight, like I do every Sunday for a family supper. This is the day they sit down and enjoy 1 or 2 rum and cokes. Tonight I'm not going to, but I don't see why I can't in the future. I just need to make sure that it stops at 1 or 2. Having no booze in my house should definitely help with that.
 

beerfilter

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See my username .

Time was I enjoyed a drink or 3 .
Now I enjoy 6 or 12 or more .

I was once full of ideas and energy .
Now I struggle to find time for basic needs and diversions .

Is it just me getting older , or , is it the brew ?

I stopped drinking for a week not long ago , and lost 4 pounds immediately .
I also lost all semblence of normal sleep/waking cycles ! :eek:

Time to leave it be ?
Maybe , but I do love beer ..
Who's holding who ? :confused:

Sorry for the quasi-hijack , but I think I may be in the same boat , or at least paddling the same waters as you .
 

SuzukiChopper

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6 to 12 I think would be considered moderate, but still not healthy. I was drinking a 30 of whiskey every day... the same as 30 beer. Way too excessive.

Wished I could give any kind of advice other then quit or cut way back if you feel it's affecting you. For me it's affecting my life and I know it isn't easy to quit so I decided to seek some advice, words of encouragement and most of all now I feel there's an additional group of people that I would potentially disappoint if I fell of the wagon. Whether or not anyone overly cares if I fail or not, it is making a difference for me. Day 5 tomorrow!
 

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Chris not to rain on you parade but if you are an alcoholic there is no such thing as SOCIAL drink.If you need a drink use the same glass you would use and instead of coke and beverage of choice use just coke. I have a sister in-law that is a drunk she has been in and out of jail for that reason,she can't hold down a job (brain cells are fried)oh when you talk to her she is not an alcoholic either. For me it was I liked beer a lot (too much) and just quit in the early 80's I didn't have all the health problems so that was not a factor but it was best decision I have ever made
 

SuzukiChopper

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Would the real slim shady please stand up? lol

Well day 7 today... one whole week. Feeling awesome. Went and got the birthday present yesterday my ol' lady bought me in January.. http://www.nitrodesigns.ca/images/tattoo.png ... that makes #4 so far and I'm glad I was sober when it was done. I've also saved about $150 not drinking so far so I'm thinking it's about time to buy some stuff for my boat :D
 

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congrats on 7 days sc. i've been thinking about you. glad to see your doing well. now you got extra coin for your boat, that's awesome. so many nice words of encouragement on here. things like this is what makes me enjoy this site more and more. good luck.
 

SuzukiChopper

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congrats on 7 days sc. i've been thinking about you. glad to see your doing well. now you got extra coin for your boat, that's awesome. so many nice words of encouragement on here. things like this is what makes me enjoy this site more and more. good luck.

Thank you sir and I agree, tons of encouragement all around about all aspects of life. I originally had planned to not even post anything and really just keep this between me and my ol' lady, but after thinking about it some there just MIGHT be someone that does read this and decides to do something about an addiction they may have (boats aside lol). If I can kick this habit after drinking 30oz of whiskey a day for 2 years (30 beer a day) then anyone should be able to do the same.
 

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Keep it going you are in our thoughts and prayers
 

SuzukiChopper

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Thanks eaglejim.

At this point I'm not sure what my girlfriend thinks of all of this. Her and I met last June/July online. One of them dating sites. Same age as me but had never been in a relationship and actually had never been intimate with anyone else either. Being who I am I told her upfront that I drank... A LOT... didn't bother her. She was extremely shy the first time we met (went bowling) but something clicked between us (went for a nice walk after bowling) and she moved in about 3 or 4 months later. She is absolutely fantastic, but all she's really seen of me is a very laid back person with little to no ambition to really do anything. She knows I know a ton of stuff about a whole bunch of different things and occasionally wind up with awesome ideas... but never ever chased or took action on. Now she's starting to see the borderline A.D.D me where I have a tough time sitting still for more then 30 minutes. It's not that I can't sit still, it's just that I have and have always had soooo many things on the go that now I just randomly go work on something (the latest fixing my in-floor heating in the basement). I'm also having a tough time sleeping (and cuddling with her) because I'm always thinking about everything. I just can't sleep which means I can't just lay in bed either (I'd work on my boat right now but noise laws are in effect right now). I had a few thoughts tonight about my boat project, thought about how I'm going to organize and clean out my garage tomorrow (basically thought of every little thing I have in there and where it should go), and now that I decided to not sell my house at this moment... how I was going to do the basement and where I was going to get the funds to do so (refinancing right now ($5k) for me might bring down my payments and interest, but I'm unemployed on EI [dad co-signed] so I'm not sure I'd even be approved). Bit of a rant, but anyways... now that I'm clear headed, have projects on the go (need to think about my Harley too yet!), things I want to do around the house, can't sleep, thinking, thinking, and thinking... *I* think she's finding it difficult to deal with me now lol. I guess on the bright side, she is willing to help with the boat, willing to help around the house (she just randomly decides to clean)... if only I could over-come the insomnia.
 

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ok, now you are about ready to see the MD, tell him what is going on. i have been taking Zolof for 8 years, it is the best stuff in the world, it just takes the edge off, so you can function.
 

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if she doesn't know, keep her informed on what's going on. and yeah, meds could help. i've had anxiety issues since i was 9. i'm 48 now. i've been on anti anxiety pills since i was 20. good stuff. keeps my mind from racing like yours. lol. good luck.
 

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it just takes the edge off, so you can function.

I can function and I'm enjoying having the energy back, keeps me busy and maybe it'll help me lose some of this weight I've put back on. I'm definitely not tired or burned out by any means, just don't think that she's ready for this lol Time will tell.
 

jonesg

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Sounds like you haven't hit bottom yet.
The great thing is alcoholism is 1primary, 2permanent and 3progressive.
1Not a symptom of somthing else, 2will not go away and 3does get worse if untreated.

What you describe as your life is the unmanageability in step 1.
Step 1 "we admitted we were powerless over alcohol-that our lives were unmanageable"

Although booze makes things worse, an untreated alcoholic's life is unmanageable whether drinking or dry.

This thread shows how much people don't understand the problem, very few people do. To quote "next time you want to drink just think of the reasons you don't want to" , Cute but completely ineffective for alkies.

I once listened to an alcohol counselor in a rehab telling "patients" to "just think through the drink". I was there leading AA meetings and counselors sat in (and usually couldn't just listen).
I said "And the next time you have diahorrea? just think thru the sh$t"
Thats exactly what its like, an unstoppable bonecrushing juggernaut. Alcolholics, left untreated, will either drink, go mad , commit suicide or recover. Because it centers in the mind, anything the mind can come up with is just more of the same problem, a broken tool cannot fix itself.

White knuckling it is the hard way. The steps are the softer easier way.
But it takes time to see that and only pain made me see.
Real eyes realize real lies.
 

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jonesg, I really like what you're saying here. The one thing I will add though and I think should be mentioned is it seems like not every addict needs to follow the same path as previous addicts. I assume what you're calling what I'm doing 'white knuckling' and for me it is working but may not work for the next person. I have always been different then most though. I recognized I had a problem and I spent a lot of time understanding the problem and why it was a problem. The one thing I could never get a firm answer on (from talking with AA people over the phone), is the level of my addiction. I would assume that based off the volume of what I was consuming someone should have been able to say I was heavy/moderate/light. I then realized that it really didn't matter and for all purposes I made up in my mind that I was heavy and something had to be done.

The other thing I will mention is that I'm NOT discounting AA or detox by ANY means. For most, that is the correct path to go down and if I fall off the wagon this time then I will be taking that path as well. My last attempt I lasted about 4 whole days, tomorrow is going to be day 8 of this attempt and so far it seems very promising. Last time I don't think I was as serious and really that committed to quitting. This time is a different story for me.
 

eaglejim

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I have a solution for the sleep problem just get a job any job it doesn't matter heck make a job out of getting a job you will be tired at the end of the day.I know the media says it is tough but turn the tube off and prove them wrong and maybe they(media) will come and report that you got a job ------no they don't do that because that would be good news and that does not sell.I know what you are thinking but there is work out there (I know first hand) I am self-employed and in December - January we had nothing on the books 30 days of dressing up(painters whites) and going out everyday meet and greet,pretending to be having a great day and now the books are 3 weeks out (I like them 3 months out)phones are ringing again,my wife asked me a while ago why I still left at the same time everyday with nowhere to go, I told her nobody's coming down our street to look for a painter,just my thoughts
 

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The US is quite a bit different when it comes to employment. We aren't struggling up in Canada like you guys are down there. The biggest thing for me is I was considering a change of careers once all the carp happened, put my house on the market ($100k profit for me) and with the conclusion of the investigation on the horizon I figured a change of scenery would be nice too but didn't want to jump the gun. Every Monday and Friday for me have been 'job search days' and EI 'randomly' selected me for an interview so I have to provide proof of job searches. Applied for 10 this week alone. Hardly makes me tired though because I love to write and custom cover letters I find fun.
 

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I am self-employed and in December - January we had nothing on the books 30 days of dressing up(painters whites) and going out everyday meet and greet,pretending to be having a great day and now the books are 3 weeks out (I like them 3 months out)phones are ringing again,my wife asked me a while ago why I still left at the same time everyday with nowhere to go, I told her nobody's coming down our street to look for a painter,just my thoughts

What a fantastic work ethic and attitude. If you were local to me I'd definitely throw you some work. I always do my own painting but I have a completely open first floor in my current house and the thought of painting that ceiling makes me ill.
 
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