HOA Boat Storage Rules

AZBoatDreamer

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Ahh, right by the High School.

My HOA is pretty laid back. I definitely wouldn't tell them my reasons for doing anything.

I looked though my CCR's one time to find out about having an RV at your house. It says that you can't have one for more than (dunno, forget axactly...might have been 48 hours)____ time WITHOUT PERMISSION from the hoa. This led me to believe that you could get permission. I inquired about having a relative park on my property for a few weeks and was told that there is no permission to get. Pretty lame since they don't own the streets in my neighborhood so people park RV's on the street instead of in the back or side yard. Too bad rules trump common sense. Anyway, I did it anyway and had my loved one park in the yard and no one seemed to notice. My neighbors are all good people and I keep good relations and a clean yard.


Yes behind the HS and I watch it being built. My son goes there.

I have a Travel Trailer and Had my run ins with HOA keeping it there to long.
The Travel Trailer is stored at an RV Storage. I do not want to keep the boat at an RV Storage for reasons already posted.

Not sure if I approach the HOA Board or the HOA management company RossMar and Graham for any approvals. I have to dig up my CCRs and review them again.

I like HOA's but in this case they are a PITA.
 

jonesg

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My buddy parked in the wrong spot one day and found a boot on his van, it was a private boot with a note "you obviously made a big mistake".

He's in construction, so he pulled out his 2 stroke powered diamond blade saw and cut it off like buttah, then chopped it in peices, left on the guys doorstep and wrote on the note, "actually you made the mistake."

He was a defiant child when younger.:D
 

dizzy1

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You should be ok as long as it can't be seen from the front yard. I'm in Power Ranch, right around the corner from you in Gilbert and I've stuffed mine a few times on the side. They told me as long as the bimini top was down, completely fine to store on the side behind the fence. Basically they way they explained it was if a person stood on my sidewalk could they see the boat, if not, completely fine. If so, not going to fly unless they never notice it or nobody complains.

Luckily I was able to relieve myself of the headache(wife) so now my boat stays in the garage all nice and warm. haha. Though boats are just as expensive and as much maintenance as a wife. ;)
 

AZBoatDreamer

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You should be ok as long as it can't be seen from the front yard. I'm in Power Ranch, right around the corner from you in Gilbert and I've stuffed mine a few times on the side. They told me as long as the bimini top was down, completely fine to store on the side behind the fence. Basically they way they explained it was if a person stood on my sidewalk could they see the boat, if not, completely fine. If so, not going to fly unless they never notice it or nobody complains.

Luckily I was able to relieve myself of the headache(wife) so now my boat stays in the garage all nice and warm. haha. Though boats are just as expensive and as much maintenance as a wife. ;)


Thanks for the post and that is how I completly feel about the situation. As long as it cannot be seen from the street or neighbors house, Who Cares.
 

MudSkunk

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we have no HOA where i live. my neighbor and i both have boats we keep ours between our two homes. i often park mine on my driveway during the boating months. next summer i am building a storage barn or remodeling my garage for my extra vehicles and boat. there are lots of options you can do without being a tool about it and annoying your neighborhood.

there isnt a whole lot of turnover and the prices of houses in my neighbor hood are a bit on the higher side and this tends to keep irresponsible people out. in the last 6 years only two homes have changed hands and both families turned out to be better than the previous owners :)
 

Y-Guy

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I knowingly bought into an HOA for the reason of trying to keep home values up and not look like I lived in the County. However our HOA allows you to park a reasonable sized RV or boat on the side of your house next to your garage as long as you have a 6' fence around it. We also allow 72 hours of load/unload time. As part of the planned neighborhood we have a mini-storage/lot about 3 blocks away that I store the motorhome at, the ATV trailer on the side of the house. Once I get a boat it will go in the garage in the winter and side of the house in the summer (easier to get in/out).

What drives me nuts are the RV/boat owners that knowingly opt to ignore the rules. I served on the first HOA board and was the one that drove the neighborhood trying to remind people of the rules. I developed the HOA polices so that we wouldn't end up with a Gestapo style HOA. But when I hear from RV/boat owners that say the $30/month storage fee is too much then I wonder how in the world they even can afford to use their boat or RV.

As a future boat owner I can see for boat owners the value of having it in the drive way. For that reason I am going to propose a new section of our covenants that would allow for parking a boat on the driveway from Memorial Weekend to Labor Day weekend. The owner would need to be in full compliance with the HOA dues and other covenants, pay a fee and then be required to park in compliance. Basic parking rules would be that the boat/trailer are in working order, the boat be moved at least once to month, and that it be properly chocked when parked and not extend into the sidewalk.
 

witenite0560

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"But when I hear from RV/boat owners that say the $30/month storage fee is too much then I wonder how in the world they even can afford to use their boat or RV."

In my opinion, it's not that most can't afford the $30 a month. It's that I find it very unnecessary when I have plenty of room on MY property. As long as it's not an eyesore, why should you care? It's not on your property. I can easily spend that $30 somewhere else.
 

Y-Guy

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As long as it's not an eyesore, why should you care? It's not on your property.
Very true, however everyone that bought in this neighborhood knew of the covenants before they bought here. Part of the appeal to our neighborhood was a relaxed HOA, however we all knowingly bought here. I've lived in another HOA that was a nightmare.
 

JimKW

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I sold my house that had a HOA and bought a lot and built a house where there was no HOA on two acres. The previous location did not allow boats, out buidlings or RV's. Shortly after I moved they enacted a rule that you could not cut your grass on Sunday. I work five and some times six days a week and some weeks Sunday would be the only day I could and if it rains during the week Sunday may be the only day it can be done. All the rich people of course had somebody else cut theirs. I like cutting my own grass.

Then this guy who really wanted to build a shed runs for President of the HOA and wins the election. He puts in a rule that you can build an out building if the plans are approved the the HOA and some kind of crap where it has to be similar to your house in appearance. So he builds a $20K shed (I have no idea what he really paid, but it was a damn nice looking shed).

I am so glad I got the heck out of there. Now my boat sits in my back yard and the neighbor just admires it. Can't wait to go out with me on it. By the way all the houses near me are as neat and well kept as any in the old neighborhood and we don't need any politicians telling us what we can and can not do.
 

skargo

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President of our HOA and boat owner....You're missing the point dude. People WANT to move into these typse of communities because Rules exist that keep the community up to certain standards.

No trailers of any kind, no cars on the grass, trashcans out of site, property must be kept neat. We pay a landscaper to groom our front community, and flowerbed the sign areas. When you think about buying here, you're told it's a cCommunity with dues, and Rules.

The community behind us doesn't have an HOA.....and to be honest, they have a trashier look as you drive through and see peoples properties and what gets "accumulated."

Same square footage, who's housing value is higher ?

I store my boat in the driveway if I'm working on it over a weekend, mostly it's at a storage place for $40 a month.

It's sad some people NEED guidance from an HOA to keep their properties neat. Where I live, it's all 2 acre minimum lots, no HOA and it looks better than the cokie cutter developments that all have HOA.

These same people probably need more government in their lives as well, so sad.:(
 

AZBoatDreamer

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It's sad some people NEED guidance from an HOA to keep their properties neat. Where I live, it's all 2 acre minimum lots, no HOA and it looks better than the cokie cutter developments that all have HOA.

These same people probably need more government in their lives as well, so sad.:(

I do not need the HOA guidance to keep my property neat. Its the other folks Im concern. I feel a run down messy property is a sign of low class people. Than you have people that rent homes in your neighborhood. All neighborhoods have them including the upscale neighborhoods who doesn't have any Financial investment into the property let the yards go to crap.

Nowback to the original topic at hand, I feel a nicely kept boat on the side of the house behind a block wall shouldn't cause any HOA Grief.

I have a HOA love and hate affair with them.

Thanks all for the replies.
 

MTribe08

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President of our HOA and boat owner....You're missing the point dude. People WANT to move into these typse of communities because Rules exist that keep the community up to certain standards.

No trailers of any kind, no cars on the grass, trashcans out of site, property must be kept neat. We pay a landscaper to groom our front community, and flowerbed the sign areas. When you think about buying here, you're told it's a cCommunity with dues, and Rules.

The community behind us doesn't have an HOA.....and to be honest, they have a trashier look as you drive through and see peoples properties and what gets "accumulated."

Same square footage, who's housing value is higher ?

I store my boat in the driveway if I'm working on it over a weekend, mostly it's at a storage place for $40 a month.


Alright Plasma, try this on for size.

I too live in Arizona in a HOA neighborhood. When I originally started looking for homes I would go into the Model Home, and speak with some reps of the builder. They would have information on the lots or spec homes available for sale.

One of my main criteria when buying a home was to find one that had a 3 car garage and enough room on the side of the house for an RV drive and double gate. AZ is recreation heaven and I have both summer and winter toys.

So, I walk into the office where I bought and bam, right there on the dry erase board. "Ready for move in, Large lot with RV drive access on side yard" I told my wife, lets go check it out. So off with the rep we go, and sure enough the house had a 3 car garage with a side yard big enough to put a 9 1/2 ft double fence. I told the rep this would be perfect, since I wanted to eventually put a boat on the side yard.."They said, great, then this lot would be great for you, since there aren't many like it in this neighborhood."

So I buy the home and a few months later I'm getting ready to start my project..pool in the backyard, put in the RV drive and Gate ect. I do the right thing and I call my HOA to let them know what I'm doing. I tell the lady I'm going to change the horrendous color of rock they put in my yard, and explain to her what I'm putting in its place. I also tell her I'm going to put in a double gate with an RV driveway made from 1/4 minus rock, curbed on both sides.

She says that will be no problem, you're good to go.

So I finish my project, everything came out great, my house is easlily one of the top looking homes in the enire neighborhood and gets many looks when home buyers are trolling through the neighborhood.

About a yr and half later after my project is long completed I get a notice in the mail, stating that I did changes to my home without HOA permission. I laughed because I obvioulsy did. I called them back anyway and explained to them that I was an original owner in that neighborhood and recieved permission to do everything I did. I also told them that my home was "Advertised" as an RV access home, and I told the rep what I was going to do and they said this would be a pefect home for me. They didn't know what to say, and "knew" who I had talked to. I told them, don't talk to me, go talk to the rep that sold me the home.

Just to "play" their game I went ahead and submitted my plans that were completed a yr ago and of course they "approved" the project.:D

My 21ft Monterey will be arrive home next week, and it WILL be going through and behind my double gate. See, I know the president of the HOA..he's a sleezball.(not implying you are too). He has a boat..installed a double gate on the side of his house and stores it there, and the HOA paid for his gate! (Don't ask me how that happened). Another thing he did..our HOA states you can't park your car on the street in front of your house. He has a son with an old crappy camero that leaks oil, so what did he have him do?? Park accross the street in front of a park, so the part of the street he is on is public property...did it everyday, and left a huge build up of sludge on the street where he parked.

He knows I have him by the jewels.:D

Here are some pictures of the project..during construction and after. I also added one where I drew an cover over the side, something I plan on doing later.

I'd like to have somebody speak up that thinks what I did would do anything but bring up the value of my home and those around it.

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RVcover001.jpg

RVAwning.jpg
 

skargo

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I do not need the HOA guidance to keep my property neat. Its the other folks Im concern. I feel a run down messy property is a sign of low class people. Than you have people that rent homes in your neighborhood. All neighborhoods have them including the upscale neighborhoods who doesn't have any Financial investment into the property let the yards go to crap.

Nowback to the original topic at hand, I feel a nicely kept boat on the side of the house behind a block wall shouldn't cause any HOA Grief.

I have a HOA love and hate affair with them.

Thanks all for the replies.
Like I said, some people NEED HOAS. I'm glad my neighbors don't. ;) Some people are WAY too worried about everyone else, that's why HOAs are there.
 

MTribe08

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I do not need the HOA guidance to keep my property neat. Its the other folks Im concern. I feel a run down messy property is a sign of low class people. Than you have people that rent homes in your neighborhood. All neighborhoods have them including the upscale neighborhoods who doesn't have any Financial investment into the property let the yards go to crap.

Nowback to the original topic at hand, I feel a nicely kept boat on the side of the house behind a block wall shouldn't cause any HOA Grief.

I have a HOA love and hate affair with them.

Thanks all for the replies.

I agree, I went to a board meeting last year, and realized what I was dealing with. They have nothing but time on their hands to go around and harrass people. They know not to come to my house anymore. I "poltely" explain to them in 10 different ways how they are barking up the wrong tree. Then then get back in their car and move on.

I mean come on..have a little bit of savy. If somebody's home is the best looking in the entire neighborhood, you find ways to get them on your side, not against you. You don't waiste homeowners money by sending them a letter in the mail stating they left their trash can outside for an extra day, and you'll be fined if you do it again. Give me a freakin break.:rolleyes:
 

AZBoatDreamer

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Just to update this thread. I boat my boat and submitted my Plans for the extended wall and RV Gate. Waiting on approval. Wish me luck.
 

Home Cookin'

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A couple of points:
Nothing said here, specifically, should be relied upon, because all HOA rules can be different, and there are also different zoning laws that can have similar--and sometimes conflicting-standards. Know your own zoning laws and HOA rules without reference to others.

The HOA may allow you to put a boat behind a fence but zoning might restrict the height of the fence. Either may restrict the type of fence. This is an example of confilts that need resolving before you build.

Putting the boat behind a fence might not solve the problem--I don't want to look down from my second floor window at a junk yard--or a car on blocks--or a boat under a tarp. If you are mid-line in a typical middle class neighborhood, 5 people look into your yard. Put it between two houses and it affects your neighbor regardless of the fence.

You may be OK with a bright blue tarp that flaps in the wind; your neighbor might not be. Neither of you are "wrong" or uunreasonable, but by moving into a town or neighborhood that restricts tarps, you have agreed to that opinion.

I personally think the most expensive well maintained new beautiful 40' yacht looks like crap stored on a trailer in a driveway. So there is an opinion, held by many but not all, that any boat stored on a trailer looks bad. Same goes with RV's and cargo trailers, and commercial vehicles. Again, you have the rules that you chose to live with. Your only option is to choose to live in a community that shares your opinion, and leave the others alone.

Solution to the short term issue: tell your neighbors what you are doing. If they see a big hulk arriving in the middle of the night, they don't know what the deal is. And many people nowadays, right or wrong, won't go ask. But if they knew it was coming in Wednesday to load up for your week's vacation leaving Saturday, or coming in Sunday night to be gone Monday, none would care.

I say None" with reservation; there are some you can't do anything with. Like the private boot guy. It's too bad, but it's life. But I suspect they are few and far between; most issues can be worked out with advance warning and a spirit of cooperation.

And no, it's not your property to do what you want with, if you are in a community. Go read the definition if you disagree. Some of your property rights end where my line of sight and hearing begins. By the majority of the posts, this "group" here thinks they should be able to store boats at the house, regardless of how it affects the neighbor's sensibilities. Isn't this the same group that wouldn't tolerate hearing "that music" from their neighbor's' driveway?
 

dorelse

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My solution was that I intentionally purchased a house with a 3 car garage big enough to park my boat in...we have a covenant, but no active HOA.

We did have a guy park his shrink wrapped boat in his front driveway for the winter...a bunch of us, including other boat owners, all asked him to not do that again.

He's been good about it...that's been the only real issue we've had...nothing at all.
 

airdvr1227

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I live in an HOA controlled development. The longest I've had my boat in the drive was about a week. No one complained but I knew I was pushing it.
 
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