HOA's- The Facts

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Just an observation around here...People who buy into neighborhoods with restrictive HOA are typically what we call "detached appartment dwellers". They rarely spend time outside, have minimal landscaping, and think the good life is showing off your new plasma TV to your appartment buddies. Outdoor activities are limited to an outdoor grill and an occasional car washing. <br />I'm not sure about the rest of the country but here in the Tampa area the "typical" new neighborhood (up to 10 years old) has 50 ft wide houses on 60ft wide lots. Parking a boat on the side is impossible because there are no sides, just a grass alley between houses. Most people refer to their house, not as their home, but rather their investment.<br /><br />I'm glad I built in a 20 year old subdivision of 22 houses. We do not have any association, but when the need arises, the residents band together and address the issue. Once solved, we disband. We are all on 1 or more acres lots which in itself is very rare for the area, and everyone has the old school attitude that their house and yard should be kept neat and presentable. We all still have our share of projects and stuff, but we keep them behind fences or in garages or the like so as not to degrade the quality of the neighborhood. Luckily, of the 22 houses, 16 are still the original owners and have no intension of moving.<br /><br />We got lucky, we happened to stumble upon a residential goldmine. The appearance of a HOA without the presense of one. It all goes to fact that everyone else has stated, you "make the choice" to buy into the neighborhood and its restrictions.<br /><br />Nav :cool:
 

kenimpzoom

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My HOA dues are 35 dollars PER YEAR.<br /><br />I doubt they could hire a bum to take me to court with that pittance of money.<br /><br />Anyway, it doesnt look like they are too well enforced, they guy down the street has a huge camper on the side of his house. Wouldnt bother me if it was clean, but its an old junker.<br /><br />Like I said, as long as HOAs keep junk out of peoples yards and other peoples houses looking neat, they are fine.<br /><br />The other stupid rules can all take a flying leap.<br /><br />Ken
 

heycods

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I dont have to worry about that YET. when I built my house here in 1978 my nearest nabor was 6 miles away. now I have 4 within a mile.
 

txswinner

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I am free to buy where I wish, but when I buy I may chose to have regulations or not. I would not want new rules from an association after I bought and I would not buy where the color paint or my gardens were controled.<br /><br />However, I do like enforcement of cars on street, dead cars in drive, cars parked in yard, number of families in dwelling, upkeep of lawn, fence and antenna requirements and such things as radio interferrence of TV or other signals.<br /><br />I know these going in and expect to maintain my property value by enforcement of the same.
 

oddjob

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I cant put up a Chickee hut without putting a pool inclosure completely around it. Go forgure. I chickee hut is Florida and hurricane proof but the pool'screen enclosure is not...stupid...I laywer at the other end of the lake has one and the association has an ongoing lawsuit with him. Mean while, Hurricane Whilma destroyed everyond pool enclosures but the guys chickee hut it still standing....
 

treedancer

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Get this I bought a lake lot about twenty years ago. Bought it mostly for fishing but the developer was still developing it when I bought it and he went and put a gulf course in. I figured fine as long as it doesn’t screw up the fishing.<br /><br />Well to make a long story short now I have a lake lot with motor restrictions on the boats if I want to build have all kinds of zoning to go through with the homeowner association and don’t get me started on the county restrictions. Also the taxes ieeee :mad:
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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My friend has an old farm house on about 60 acres. The property across the street was bought by a developer. Now the new owners are complaining about his property. His property has been a schamble for many years. He buys and sells cars so he always has on the average of 10 to 20 cars on his property. The cars really doesn't stay there for over 4 days. Besides the cars, he has 4 large farm tractors, several dozen lawn/garden tractors, farm impliments, tires, and many things considered an eyesore.<br /><br />The nearby residents mainly complained about his yard being over grown. His yard was all wildflowers that are protected by the state according to the county sheriff. So basically, the county said to the residents that things on a farm isn't always pretty, your gonna have to deal with it.<br /><br />So to add insult to injury, my friend bought 4 angus steers to raise. Guess which way the prevailing winds blow... :D
 

Bondo

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Ayuh,...........<br /><br />I'm a Firm Believer in ACREAGE,....... Rather than HOA.............. ;) <br /><br />Ain't NoBody telling Me what to do in My Yard..............
 

ZmOz

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Originally posted by Quietcat22:<br /> Z and MrB seem on the opposite side of their typical arguments. I am pretty sure I recall Z saying he should be able to cuss in front of anybody anywhere anytime. Seems a little odd that he would support HOA stuff. Not sure how telling somebody to get rid of the pool is different :confused:
Anybody would be all for them after coming home to find your ~40 year old, grossly overweight neighbor sitting in his "pond" in between two piles of dirt playing with a squirt gun. I still have nightmares.<br /><br />Plus I know all the loopholes and most of my neighbors know better than to complain about me. When they threw a fit because my wrecked truck was temporarily in my driveway I bought an old pickup that looks and runs much worse to leave there. It's legally registered and kind of runs, so they can't make me get rid of it. ;) And I can still do whatever I want in my back yard...believe me, I do. ;)
 

Haut Medoc

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Opppps! My bad. I forgot one of the tenants of Liberalism is "Do as I say, not as I do".
Just as much as the tenants of Republicanism are, "You have the right to be individuals, as long as you are just like us".....LOA's are generally for old farts who either can't or don't want to take care of their homes exterior. When/if I get that old, I'll deal with it then......I had to sell my parents winter house because of a HOA, so I do have a bad taste in my mouth....JK
 
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DJ

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Nav. Wrote:<br /><br />
Just an observation around here...People who buy into neighborhoods with restrictive HOA are typically what we call "detached appartment dwellers". They rarely spend time outside, have minimal landscaping, and think the good life is showing off your new plasma TV to your appartment buddies. Outdoor activities are limited to an outdoor grill and an occasional car washing. <br />I'm not sure about the rest of the country but here in the Tampa area the "typical" new neighborhood (up to 10 years old) has 50 ft wide houses on 60ft wide lots. Parking a boat on the side is impossible because there are no sides, just a grass alley between houses. Most people refer to their house, not as their home, but rather their investment.<br />
To a point, I do not disagree. I am an avid outdoorsman, but I keep my activities to myself. I even fix stuff, in the garage. Again, I keep it to myself. Noone would ever know.<br /><br />My whole point was, and I see many agree, that one should know-going in-what the rules are. You can't second guess them once you sign the contract.
 

18rabbit

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well, you can't really buy property unless you sign off on the hoa rules.<br /><br />my persoanl thought is either you own the property of your don't. it is not "ours". if it is your property, you can set the rule. if it is my property, you need to go away when i tell you to, every time i tell you to.<br /><br />where are hoa's coming under attack? haven't heard anything about it recently.
 

artburr

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Would you believe, we (wife and I) belong to three HOAs. One is for our beach house. They maintain the streets, require that exteriors be reasonably neat and not garish, restrict on-site RVs, boats, etc.<br /><br />We live in a planned unit development, that is a mix of individual homes and condos. The p.u.d. has a HOA that tends to the same things mentioned above plus landscaping controls. Then our condominium group has its own HOA which maintains the exteriors of our homes, landscaping, etc.<br /><br />We used to live on acreage in the country where everyone was free to do their own thing. Some of our neighbors places were pretty disreputable so when it got to be too much, we moved. Our condo is just right for creaky old people in their 70s. But without the HOAs, it just wouldn't work.
 
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DJ

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18rabbit wrote:<br /><br />
where are hoa's coming under attack? haven't heard anything about it recently.<br />
It's become a HUGE issue here in Phoenix, one of the hottest real estate markets, in the US. The media is on the side of the "disrepectors". Go figure.
 

oddjob

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Originally posted by efhenry:<br /> Whats a CHickee hut??
Its an outdoor structure made by the Seminole Indians. Made with cypress poles and palm thatch roof. You see alot of them at hotels around a pool and so forth. The Calusa ( indians ), and later the Seminoles live in them with a raised floor above flood levels. Easy to build and mostly hurricane proof. Ideal for a backyard pavilion and barbeque area. And they look cool too. :) <br /><br />Our assoc. wants you to build a screened patio enclosure around it :rolleyes:
 
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