Home Sales Tumble

Fly Rod

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Sales of previously occupied homes took their largest drop in more than 40 years last month yet managed to end 2009 with the first annual gain in four years.

Still, prices plunged by more than 12 percent last year ? the sharpest fall since the Great Depression. The price drop for 2009 ? to a median of $173,500 ? showed the housing market remains too weak to help fuel a sustained economic recovery. Total sales for 2009 were nearly 5.2 million, up about 5 percent from 2008.

Last month's worse-than-expected showing underscores concerns that the housing market could weaken further after March 31, when the Federal Reserve is set to end its program to buy mortgage securities to keep home loan rates low. Once that program ends, mortgage rates could rise. Adding to the worries, a newly extended homebuyer tax credit is scheduled to run out at the end of April.
The numbers "clearly indicate that the rebound in housing demand observed so far has been largely supported by government programs," Anna Piretti, senior economist at BNP Paribas, wrote in a research note Monday.

The poor December showing occurred after Congress extended the tax credit, easing pressure on buyers to act quickly. The credit of up to $8,000 for first-time homeowners had been due to expire Nov. 30. But Congress extended the deadline and expanded it with a new $6,500 credit for existing homeowners who move.

December's sales fell 16.7 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 5.45 million, from an unchanged pace of 6.54 million in November, the National Association of Realtors said Monday. Sales had been expected to fall by about 10 percent, according to economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters.

The report "places a large question mark over whether the recovery can be sustained when the extended tax credit expires," wrote Paul Dales, U.S. economist with Capital Economics.

The median sales price for December was $178,300, up 1.5 percent from a year earlier and the first yearly gain since August 2007. But some of that increase could be due to a drop-off in purchases from first-time buyers who tend to buy less expensive homes.

Associated Press
 
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Huron Angler

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As a potential first-time home buyer...I must admit that I'm not thrilled about signing a mortgage only to find myself underwater and paying higher taxes on the previous assessment. That's got me happily renting at the moment.:)

Seen many friends buy in the last 1-3 years...now kicking themselves and this market still has a ways to go to the downside if you ask me. The tax credits cause people to make poor choices in some cases since they use it as their down payment and really can't afford the note.

Too many on the market for prices to stay where they are even now. Course Michigan isn't the strongest economy...quite the opposite.

(I won't say anything about the federal reserve or this will get closed:p)
 

BoatBuoy

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Be nice if you referenced the source, unless of course, you wrote it yourself.
 

Fly Rod

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How is it political?

It is knowledge, letting people know how the housing market is and maybe where they stand if they have to sell.
 

gstanton

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I agree that the source needs to be referenced. I could write another article showing how the housing market is in wonderful shape.
 

Fly Rod

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I agree that the source needs to be referenced. I could write another article showing how the housing market is in wonderful shape.

If you wrote an article about how well the maket is I doubt that anyone would believe it.
 

gonefishie

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Man, that ain't good. I was hoping I could sell my house when the lease is up in May. Guess I'll keep renting it out.
 

jay_merrill

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Of course its political. I vote for an immediate zap.

BTW, there is a great deal more to this story and the information in the article that you presented is extremely misleading, as compared to the complete picture. Home sales are up over the same period last year and home prices have begun to rise.



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Vlad D Impeller

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House prices will remain flat until the supply of money starts to flow, the banks are yet too jittery to begin lending to the public. It's difficult enough for businesses to acquire the loans they need.
 

ezmobee

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I think prices have come down to more realistic levels. And Huron Angler, I think now is a great time to buy a house especially with all the incentives available. We bought our house 5 years ago for $157k. It's value shot up to $215k almost overnight. (this isn't just perceived. I could have definitely sold it for that). Now it's value is hovering somewhere in the $180k range. That seems more realistic to me.
 

Fly Rod

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First time home buyer's seem to have stopped purchasing in the month of December which basically caused the drop in home sales. December people have other things on their minds such as Christmas holidays which could have caused the slump.

I agree with ezmobee, it could be a great time to buy with the incentives to purchase. The main thing for a first time home buyer is to do their homework and make sure that they can afford the purchase, a substantial downpayment, stay away from an arm(adjustable rate mortgage.)

The 8,000 dollar incentive seems to be driving the first time homebuyer to purchase. Have to keep in mind that if the buyer owes outstanding taxes, government backed student loans, that what the buyer owes will be deducted.

If a buyer owes 9,000 in taxes the buyer will owe a thousand. If buyer owes 6,000 in taxes, buyer will receive 2,000 from the 1st time homebuyer incentive.
 

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It has to be remembered that those are national averages, and each individual market will vary, as well as the fact that in many markets, banks are withholding some properties off the market to avoid flooding a slow market and causing prices to fall further.
 

itsaboattime

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Back when I bought my house in the mid 90's it appraised @ $75,500. When I had it appraised in '03 it was worth $105,000. I just sold it in Nov. for $85,500.

We haven't seen the bottom yet. Unemployment(11% here in Il.) isn't helping ppl buy homes.
 

LadyFish

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We live in a resort area where normally we're not affected economically as far as housing sales. Having said that, we experienced a major hurricane in September 2008, 70,000 were damaged and 20,000 people never returned to the island. This has deeply affected the market here until just this month new homes are finally being built and older home sales are really picking up.
 

Bob_VT

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Here in my area of VT it seems as if a For Sale sign is the common lawn ornament........ but, it has been that way for years here.
 

gonefishie

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We live in a resort area where normally we're not affected economically as far as housing sales. Having said that, we experienced a major hurricane in September 2008, 70,000 were damaged and 20,000 people never returned to the island. This has deeply affected the market here until just this month new homes are finally being built and older home sales are really picking up.

Thanks for the tip LF. I'm gonna hire a house mover and relocate my house to Galveston and put up a for sale sign.
 

Kiwi Phil

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Our market is picking up....slowly....and there are some 'fair' buys out there.

I believe:

now is a perfect time to buy, so long as you can afford the costs involved in servicing the debt.
Forget what your house is worth...think in terms of what it costs you.

Freeholding your own home is the smartest and greatest investment you will ever make.
The market value of your home becomes irrelevant.....what it costs you is.

The secret is to ensure your costs associated with owning your home falls, as your family income increases.

If you purchase a home today, the repayments may take up over 35% of your disposable income.

If you follow my beliefs, then in 10 years those same repayments should not exceed 10% of your disposable income, and all of a sudden you get financially comfortable.

Just my opinion.
Cheers
Phillip
 

captmello

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If you purchase a home today, the repayments may take up over 35% of your disposable income.

If you follow my beliefs, then in 10 years those same repayments should not exceed 10% of your disposable income, and all of a sudden you get financially comfortable.

Just my opinion.
Cheers
Phillip

Phil, I agree with what you've said, however let me give an example of my house payment.

I purchased my house 12 years ago for 70,000. A fixer upper. My payment, including taxes and insurance was about 550/month. Since then with property taxes and insurance rates going up, my payment is currently 825/month.

Half my monthly payment is for property taxes and Homeowners insurance.:mad:
 
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