hone a small outboard

phatmanmike

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hello. i have a 1972 johnson 6hp that i am in the process of putting back together from a total nightmare of various parts frm various motors. <br /><br />i want to hone the cylinders and put new rings, but what exactly would i gain from this, or is it even worth my time and cash to re- hone a 6hp?
 

phatmanmike

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Re: hone a small outboard

can i use the hones that look like this...
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<br />or what about the ones that look like this...
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JB

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Re: hone a small outboard

I vote for the second hone, PMM.
 

phatmanmike

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Re: hone a small outboard

and can i do this my self, ive hear d of putting this in a drill, but how do you keep it straight?
 

Paul Moir

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Re: hone a small outboard

Mike, if your doing your 6hp, I figure you're doing a 1.94" bore. Make sure that the hone you're buying fits your engine. For little engines, I use a brake cylinder hone, which looks like a miniature version of the second hone. It's always worked very well for me.<br /><br />The shaft of the hone is flexible, so staying straight isn't really important. You want it as close as possible to square of course, but there's no sense going far inside the tolerances of the tool. You'll see what I mean when you've got it in hand.<br /><br />The main thing is, it's not a precision instrument, so don't try to bore out your engine with it. Just hone it enough to break the glaze, you're not looking to resize the bore at all and waste away that precious metal.<br /><br />Also, don't forget to break the edge around the exhaust and intake ports when you're done with a file or (carefully!) with a dremel. You don't want a chunk of that sharp edge snapping off or catching the edge of the ring. (though I doubt that's likely to happen with the circular ports.)<br /><br />Without honing the cylinders, the rings will practically never seat. You would probably be better off using the old rings, since they're the shape of the cylinder while the new ones are perfectly round.
 

mattsaks

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Re: hone a small outboard

should you use any kind of lubricant on the hone? or do it dry?
 

BoatBuoy

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Re: hone a small outboard

Use light machine oil. Just remember, as Paul indicated, you're not trying to open up the bore any. You're just trying to break the cylinder glaze so there will be enough initial friction between the cylinder and the new rings for the rings to "seat".<br /><br />Been a long time for me - do you need to ream the cylinder ridge at the top when replacing rings on these outboards?
 

lark2004

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Re: hone a small outboard

I guess it would depend on if there is a lip forming... If there is, then I would certainly run a ridge reamer over it. Of corse if there is a noticable lip, it may really need to be bored and have oversized pistons fitted due to piston/bore clearance becoming to big. I know on mine that there is not a whole lot of room for wear, the min clearance is 3 thou and the max is 4.5 thou.
 

mikenlapaz

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Re: hone a small outboard

phatmanmike <br />What is the material of cylinder? Alum or is their a liner of different material?<br />Mike
 

Paul Moir

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Re: hone a small outboard

Mikenlapaz - the '72 6hp johnny/rude uses iron sleeves, so that's what he's honing.<br />I agree with lark2004 - if you've got a ridge big enough to ream, you're into reboring anyway.
 

Winger Ed.

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Re: hone a small outboard

If the cylinder is already in decent enough shape that it doesn't need to be bored, I'd use the 2nd hone with the stones and put it in a hand turned 'eggbeater' drill. And pour plenty of light engine oil on the stones as they are turned.<br /><br /><br />Doing it by hand, you more than likely won't take off too much material and risk opening up the bore. Even with the hand drill, you shouldn't spend more than about a minute on each cylinder.<br /><br /><br />All you're needing to do is 'unpolish' the bore from the previous set of rings.
 
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