How do I best use my trim tabs?

reference123

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

Boatist<br /><br />Do you have any experience with the automatic tab control system? Just wondered what you thought of it if so.
 

danthern

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

Thanks Boatist....when the rain slacks up down here I plan to take a day and get to know my tabs...thanks for the advice.
 

Boatist

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

Reference<br />No I have not had a chance to try them but I do not think I would like them. In general I like the saying "keep it simple stupid". I have not tried them but if you have helm adjustable tabs I think you can do a better job. Now my Wife might like them. I am sure they do a good job of keeping the boat in a good attitude. <br /><br />Let say you are out on the lake with no wind very few boats and flat glassy water. In this condition I would adjust my tabs to let the bow rise. This will increase speed improve fuel mileage and still have a great ride. If I am going a long way I will select a fuel efficent crusing speed. I am sure you could set the automatic tabs for this condition. Then you come around a bend and see a 25 foot heavy curser pulling a boarder at about 15 mph. He has a very big wake so you need to do something to change the trim of your boat. You can very fast and easy adjust your tabs and put the bow down to get thru the wave, you can trim the bow down with your motor but I think automatic tabs would try to adjust back up. Of course you can slow down and change course to cross the wave at a good angle. For me I just find it so fast and easy to adjust the tabs and change course a little until I cross the wave then go right back. So for me I see it as something that can have problems that I do not want or need. I love my tabs, they are the best thing I have added to my boat. When installing them and drilling the holes I was worried I had made a mistake but when I got on the water I could not belive the difference it made in my ride. After the first rough day no amount of money could have changed my mind. It makes my 21 foot Aluminum runabout ride like a 24 foot deep V heavy boat. We just returned from a week long fishing trip in the Pacific ocean out of Bodega Bay about 30 miles North/NorthWest of San Francisco. Best day we had was 24 knots winds with gusts to 33. Trust me when I say I do not know how automatic Controls could adjust for these conditions. My Tabs are probably too large for my boat as they are 24 wide by 12" cord per side but I do not know how they could work any better.
 

Boatist

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

Won't Float<br />After you spend a hour with nothing to do but test your tabs you will love them. I understand the Rain in your area very well. I spent a year in Biloxi and almost 2 in Montgomery. Saw a little storm called Camille a class 5 with winds of 160.
 

Tabman

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

Boat won't float,<br /><br />Sorry in getting into this a bit late (I have been traveling a lot). We of course belive that remotely adjustable Trim Tabs offer the best control of any boat over the broadest range of speed, loading and sea conditions. This is particually true in smaller boats where weight postion in the boat will have a greater impact then on larger ones. Being able to adjust the boat to the existing weight placement both fore and aft and side to side as well as trimming the boat to ride well in a head or following sea is best done with remotely controled Tabs. Of course I am biased since I work for Bennett :) <br /><br />As several people have pointed out, the key to getting the best out of Trim Tabs is experimenting with them since all boats are different. Use them in short bursts and let the boat settle down between corrections. Below you will find a little Trim Tabs 101 that should help you get started. Don't let the information below make you think using Tabs is complicated. As you will quickly find out it is not and using them will soon become second nature.<br /><br />Let me know if you have any questions after you look it over and i will be delighted to help. <br /><br />Tom McGow <br />Bennett Marine <br /><br />Getting and Staying Trimmed <br /><br />All boats assume different fore to aft attitudes at different throttle settings and vary in sensitivity to lateral weight distribution. <br /><br />A boat’s optimum running attitude is determined by the operator. While some people may define optimum running attitude as the highest possible speed for a given amount of engine RPMs, others desire the best possible fuel economy, yet others may be trimming the boat to get just the right mix of speed and wake (such as for waterskiing.) <br />Optimum running attitude is when the boat is running to the operator’s satisfaction for the given operating conditions. There are as many optimum running attitudes as there are boats and boat owners <br /><br />A good way to determine a boats optimum running angle (see side bar Optimum Running Attitude) is to run the boat lightly loaded at full speed in calm water. During this test observe the boat’s bow in relation to the horizon. Most boats run at or near their optimum attitude under these conditions. This should give you a feel for the appearance of the wake and bow spray when running at an efficient attitude. Note that not all boats will achieve their optimum running attitude under these conditions. Some boats will benefit from extra lift even when running at their maximum throttle settings. If you feel the boat will benefit from added bow down trim when running at speed start with the trim tabs fully up and deflect the trim tabs in short bursts. Be alert to changes in the boats handling, as you bring the bow down. Observe any changes in RPMs and/or speed. Adjust power trim if applicable. <br /><br />Indications of Running Untrimmed <br />When a boat is running untrimmed the bow spray will exit the sides of the boat far aft. The stern wave (wake) is high and curling like a breaker on the beach. The rooster tail is high and close to the stern. The engine is laboring and the ride tends to be less smooth. <br /><br />Indications of Running Trimmed <br />The bow spray moves forward and is flung not as far from the boat. The wake diminishes in height, as the rooster tail flattens out and moves away from the boat. The engine is operating under less load as evidenced by the tachometer and speed as well as sounding less strained. <br /><br />One Step at a Time <br />The key to obtaining optimal results from trim tabs is to operate them in short bursts and let the boat react before making another adjustment. The amount of time between corrections is influenced by the size of the trim tabs and the boat’s speed. This will help avoid overtrimming or ending up with one tab too far down when correcting lateral trim. You will quickly become acquainted with a boat’s particular traits. <br /><br />Take Off <br />Properly sized trim tabs can significantly reduce the time needed to get up on plane. They also allow a boat to keep its bow down and stay on plane at lower speeds. <br />As the throttle is advanced the stern of the boat begins to squat, lifting the bow. As the boat accelerates, push the bow down position of the helm control in short bursts. The boat reacts by the stern lifting, the bow coming down, speed increasing, and reduced engine laboring. If you over do it and deflect the tabs too far the boat will end up overtrimmed. When over trimmed, the steering becomes over sensitive and wants to pull off course to port or starboard. If this occurs, operate the control bow up until the desired attitude is established. <br /><br />Getting the Most from Power Trim <br />Adjust the trim tabs to achieve the desired running attitude. Then use the power trim to position the propeller thrust parallel to the water flow. If necessary, re-adjust the trim tabs to fine tune the attitude. By observing the boat’s speed and engine RPMs the best combination of trim tabs and power trim will be apparent. Trim tab angle indicators and a power trim angle indicator are particularly useful in duplicating effective settings. <br /><br />Trimming to Sea Conditions <br />When running into a head sea you want to trim the bow down so the sharp forward sections of the boat do their work cleaving the waves. This provides the most comfortable ride and minimizes stress on the boat (and passengers). In a following sea the tabs should be fully retracted for maximum steering response. <br />Correction of a List <br /><br />As previously mentioned the normal control setup for trim tabs operates in relation to the desired changes in trim and not the actual movement of the tabs. Therefore, do not think about what the tabs are doing, but rather on the control and what you want the boat to do. As above, make the corrections in bursts and allow the boat to settle to the new settings. You may find it easier to correct the boat’s fore and aft attitude before you correct the athwartship trim. <br /><br />Correction of Porpoising <br />Operate the tabs in very short bursts of about half a second. Continue until porpoising subsides. The objective is to have only a very slight amount of tab deflection, just the amount needed to cure the up and down motion of the bow.
 

danthern

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

Thanks Tabman and everyone else....Hope to get out on the water this weekend for tab education. I'll keep y'all posted!
 

Mark42

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Re: How do I best use my trim tabs?

A quick note to Phyrfighter95:<br /><br />I too had a hydrofoil that helped get the boat on plane and hold a plane at slow speeds. During the process of fine tuning the setup of my 14.5' runabout, I found out that adjusting the motor trim bolt to be further in (trim in, or bring motor closer to transome) the boat ran better without a hydrofoil than it did before with a hydrofoil. It cut waves better, steered better and mid and high speed handling was greatly improved. I actually increased my top speed and USABLE top speed by trimming in rather than use a hydrofoil. <br /><br />My point is this: Before you spend any money on more enhancements to your boat, take the time to change the trim angle and see if that is the correct fix for your situation.
 
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