How many people here believe that we will get hit again!

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Were we to complacent on 9/11? You know, when the senate, house and WH were ALL controlled by the other side.

That's right, of course that couldn't have happened on Slick Willy's watch... he kept OBL in check, Right?
 

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Who was in office? Who controlled everything? The 9/11 attack did not happen on Clinton's watch no matter how you try to reconfigure the calendar.
 

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You miss the point, as usual...

he kept OBL in check, Right?
 

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custombycrunch said:
Were we to complacent on 9/11? You know, when the senate, house and WH were ALL controlled by the other side.

That's right, of course that couldn't have happened on Slick Willy's watch... he kept OBL in check, Right?

Do you see the point you responded to. You missed the point. You responded to me. Therefore, I could not have missed your point.

What does Clinton have to do with the 9/11 attack, if that's where you want to go?
 

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CJY said:

Were we to complacent on 9/11? You know, when the senate, house and WH were ALL controlled by the other side.

I said:

That's right, (I was agreeing with you) of course that couldn't have happened on Slick Willy's watch... he kept OBL in check, Right? (I was asking a question)

Simple enough?
 

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Like little boys who act up in class terrorists are looking for a "reaction". Unfortunately they didn't expect the reaction that they got. They were probably counting on a reaction like they got from Spain. The jerks at the top of this food chain are IMHO not interested in giving the US population another reason to rally. They are biding their time and watching our country continue to go soft on terrorists, watching us start to blame ourselves and pursecute our own troops, and when they think we have gone soft enough, something will go boom.

I expect another in about 18 months. The reaction of congress with their "new" leadership will then dictate their course from there. They do not want to deal with an ANGRY United States. They are looking for a concilatory reaction. I hope we are smart enough to react vigorously and decisively. But I have my doubts.
 

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No, not simple enough. What does Clinton have to do with 9/11?
 

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CJY,

No wonder we keep buttin' heads . . . One quick question. Does he get blamed for 9/11 and get no credit for no attacks since? Or are they both dumb luck? Can't have it both ways, sir.

I believe JB's point was that we were all complacent. I think that is a) obvious and b) honestly admitted by anybody that was in this country.

Oh, oh and I know prior to 9/11 I wondered why we weren't being hit while much of the world had experienced many more cases of terrorism. Is it possible in your world that we actually do have better intelligence and that this is a good thing? I would much rather invade Iraq because we believed they had WMD, than not, and find out the hard way that they did . . . Why do I waste my time . . . and I thought we were actually communicating.

BTW, I believe your accurate observation is indeed cynical.
 

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QC,

You are making things up as you go along? Where did I say, either today, or on any past thread he gets no credit for the lack of attacks since he took office? My outspoken dislike for W has clouded your vision and you are beginning to see/hear/read things that are not there. So you see, I am not asking to have it both ways. I simply asked, what does Clinton have to do with 9/11?

So I would disagree with being called a cynic. Unless you can show me where I said something different, I guess we know who the cynic is...don't we. Your observations are far less than accurate on this one.
 

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"I believe JB's point was that we were all complacent. I think that is a) obvious and b) honestly admitted by anybody that was in this country."

As far as what JB said, I have quoted it for your reading pleasure, found below.

"As soon as we return to complacency. . . BANG!!

Count on the left leaning congress to push for a return to complacency."


I did not try to imagine or guess what was meant. I read it. Remember, observations must be accurate otherwise you are merely a cynic.
 

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CJY said:
No, not simple enough. What does Clinton have to do with 9/11?

Learn to read, not read into.... that is the key to not looking like a spin doctor.

Now, will you answer the question or keep spinning?
 

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CJY said:
No, not simple enough. What does Clinton have to do with 9/11?

Who was on watch when the terrorists entered the country? Who was on watch during the years of their training to fly planes? Who was on watch when the FBI, CIA and NSA didn't share information? Who made it so they couldn't share information? Who was on watch for the bombing of the Cole? Who was on watch for the first WTC bombing? Who did absolutly nothing about these things?
Clear enough?

Or and I say when and not if....
 

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They hate us and they will strike again. Cutting and running in Iraq will just free up more of their resourses to enable them to act quicker and on a grander scale.

If you think that this is a short term struggle, that was just exacerbated by our incursion into Iraq, you are fools.
 

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Just in case you forgot...

CJY said:

Were we to complacent on 9/11? You know, when the senate, house and WH were ALL controlled by the other side.

I said:

That's right, (I was agreeing with you) of course that couldn't have happened on Slick Willy's watch... he kept OBL in check, Right? (I was asking a question)

Simple enough?
 

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EricKems said:
CJY said:
No, not simple enough. What does Clinton have to do with 9/11?

Who was on watch when the terrorists entered the country? Who was on watch during the years of their training to fly planes? Who was on watch when the FBI, CIA and NSA didn't share information? Who made it so they couldn't share information? Who was on watch for the bombing of the Cole? Who was on watch for the first WTC bombing? Who did absolutly nothing about these things?
Clear enough?

Or and I say when and not if....

Dang Eric, I was trying to get him to admit it... 8)
 

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Your first post in this thread placed the blame directly on Republicans and W. I didn't need any Clinton piece to push me there. Have you noticed that I have NEVER used Clinton in any of my posts? Well, I did invoke the name of Lewinsky once within an attempt at humor that I thought was pretty funny, but I digress . . . I think it is reasonable for me to ask you to give some credit for not being attacked if you insist on placing the 9/11 blame on anyone but the evil doers . . . I am not seeing things, they are plane as day within your posts.

I also, fear that the left may lead us back to complacency. I think the right would tend to become complacent more slowly. That there is an observation which may prove not to be accurate and is also not cynical. I actually take my words seriously and am not intending to play any games. It feels, however, that your game is simply partisan which in fact makes it a cynical game.
 

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custombycrunch said:
EricKems said:
CJY said:
No, not simple enough. What does Clinton have to do with 9/11?

Who was on watch when the terrorists entered the country? Who was on watch during the years of their training to fly planes? Who was on watch when the FBI, CIA and NSA didn't share information? Who made it so they couldn't share information? Who was on watch for the bombing of the Cole? Who was on watch for the first WTC bombing? Who did absolutly nothing about these things?
Clear enough?

Or and I say when and not if....

Dang Eric, I was trying to get him to admit it... 8)

Sorry for raining on your parade 8).

Slick Willy is an icon to some and they will never face the facts or the truth no matter how obvious it is, let alone admit it.
 

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Who was on watch when the terrorists entered the country? Who was on watch during the years of their training to fly planes? Who was on watch when the FBI, CIA and NSA didn't share information? Who made it so they couldn't share information? Who was on watch for the bombing of the Cole? Who was on watch for the first WTC bombing? Who did absolutly nothing about these things?

You cannot possibly prove all of these. However, I will choose not to argue them and accept them as such. I will simply say that the democrats evidently did not find it appropriate to attack a nation that had nothing to do with any of these attacks. We did not attack "terrorist," after 9/11, we attacked Iraq, remember. A country that never terrorized us.

"he kept OBL in check, Right? (I was asking a question)"

I guess the best answer to this question is to say he did as great a job as W has done. By the way, was OBL unknown by W up until 9/11?
 

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I will pick this up tomorrow, I have a football game to watch. Favre in the snow...a classic.
 

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EricKems said:
custombycrunch said:
EricKems said:
CJY said:
No, not simple enough. What does Clinton have to do with 9/11?

Who was on watch when the terrorists entered the country? Who was on watch during the years of their training to fly planes? Who was on watch when the FBI, CIA and NSA didn't share information? Who made it so they couldn't share information? Who was on watch for the bombing of the Cole? Who was on watch for the first WTC bombing? Who did absolutly nothing about these things?
Clear enough?

Or and I say when and not if....

Dang Eric, I was trying to get him to admit it... 8)

Sorry for raining on your parade 8).

Slick Willy is an icon to some and they will never face the facts or the truth no matter how obvious it is, let alone admit it.

No problem Eric, he will never admit he is wrong... just keep spinning and spinning, he'd make a top dizzy. +o(
 
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