How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

fishead

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Hi my starter motor solinoid on my 45hp chrysler 1977 model has just **** its self. batterie is good even tryed jump starting it from the car. but it still wont go, solinoid just clicks and wount engadge the starter motor at all. in chrysler manual it talks about using a test light to determine what the problem is. seems to me the solinoid has gone bye bye never to work again. i dont have a pull rope for it but would i be able to start the motor by pull starting it,or by jump starting via the starter motor. any ideas from you :confused: would be good. ta :confused:
 

chuckz

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

You can jump the two large posts on the solenoid with a screwdriver. This is an emergency or troubleshooting procedure ONLY! If the starter still doesn't spin, you have other problems.<br /><br />You could have a bad connection between the starter and the solenoid or a bad ground. You could also have a bad starter motor.
 

Jcrain

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

Any 1/4 inch rope should work to start it. I recomend enough rope for 2 turns on the flywheel. They start pretty easy with a rope<br />I'd check the connections going from sol to starter Altho solinoids can give up the ghost, if it's clicking, then maybe it a corrsion problem.
 

fishead

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

cheers i will give it a go pull starting it. Happy new year to you
 

eurolarva

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

If you have a volt meter disconnect the starter red wire. connect the red lead of the volt meter to that wire and connect the black lead to ground. Engage the starter and you should see 12 volts. When you release the key from the start position you should have around zero volts. If you do the solinoid is fine the starter is the problem<br /><br />Check to verify you have the motor in neutral and that the neutral interlock switch is working. My guess is if you hear clicking the interlock switch is working and so is the solinoid. Chances are the brushes in your starter are bad or need to be slightly filed. Also as mentioned before make sure all connections are clean and tight. Any corrosion creates contact resistance which reduces the amount of power going to the starter.
 

JB

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

Go to Engine FAQs. Read the starter circuit troubleshooting in the "Outboard wont start" article.<br /><br />You probably have a bad ground on the engine block.<br /><br />Good luck. :)
 

fishead

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

Found the problem starter motor had seized so i took it off gave it a couple of turns with a spanner on the nut on top of it then hooked it up to a batterie while it was laying on the groung let it run for a little bit now its ok.Hooked it back up to the motor bobs ya uncle working again. what should i use to lubricate it to stop it from seizeing again just a spray lube would be ok wouldnt it or does it have to be marine grade?
 

eurolarva

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Re: How to start a 45hp with dead solinoid?

The starter motor should not be greesed or oiled. The bendix can be cleaned with WD40 and then use a light lubrication. The starter will need to be taken apart and cleaned with an emery cloth. Make sure all carbon deposits are removed and verify that the brushes has a smooth curve with no pitting. If the pitting is light lightly sand these with 300 grit sand paper or emery cloth on a pencil. Use a clean rag to clean off the comutator and the armature to remove any built up carbon. If the brushes are badly deterioated check around with a small motor manufacturer to see if you can get replacements.<br /><br />Also some starter casings can be reversed on reassembly. If you put the cover on upside down the magnets will be reversed and the starter will spin the wrong way.<br /><br />When you put this back together the springs on the brushes can be a real chore. Some starters have a cheater hole where you can place a paper clip in to hold the brushes while you re assemble. Chances are yours will not have these holes and you will have to use very fine fishing line or thread to hold them in place while you put this back together. <br /><br />Binding on the starter is a sign of wear. I would not trust this starter even if it is working now without inspecting it to find the problem. Your motor should have an emergency rope starter bracket on the top of the power head. Take some clothes line about 5 feet long with a small knot on the end to use if you cant get the starter to work on the lake. Chryslers usually start good warm so you probably need only one compression stroke on the motor to get it to go using the rope.<br /><br />Goodluck
 
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