hurricane sandy

[Home Cookin']

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A lot of Andrew's death and destruction was attributed to tornadoes in the eye wall, in addition to moving quickly through occupied and poorly built homes.

Often the worse damage is to the untested: newer buildings or land that was previously unoccupied. The hurricanes and similar storms is the reason people didn't build big homes on the beach as the permanent residence.

I have never evacuated for a hurricane, and doubt I will, but I don't live in the gulf or south Atlantic where they are stronger, or in a house/property that couldn't handle both the wind and flooding from a 1 or 2. The house has 90 years and our family 75 years there and a wide variety of big storms. I would consider it for a bigger storm, although in Virginia, the people who die are those who are away from the coast in the hills and mountains--where most people evacuate to. So for me to evacuate safely I'd have to run south and get underneath it. Not so easy.

 

[jacobmeyers]

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This was my Marina before Hurricane Sandy hit Cleveland on Monday night into Tuesday morning. I shot this video at around 6:30pm. Shortly after the blue steel breakwall broke and let the 10 - 12 footers brewing inside the harbor into the marina destroying the docks and sinking 7 boats. Nextdoor at Edgewater Marina 30 boats sunk.

Here is the aftermath of Sandy

[video]http://fox8.com/2012/10/30/sandy-sinks-dozens-of-boats-on-lake-erie/#ooid=cxc2RnNjqfRsGuoDLh0jXrDP-iT0YCWQ[/video]

 

[jigngrub]

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This was my Marina before Hurricane Sandy hit Cleveland on Monday night into Tuesday morning. I shot this video at around 6:30pm. Shortly after the blue steel breakwall broke and let the 10 - 12 footers brewing inside the harbor into the marina destroying the docks and sinking 7 boats. Nextdoor at Edgewater Marina 30 boats sunk.

Here is the aftermath of Sandy

[video]http://fox8.com/2012/10/30/sandy-sinks-dozens-of-boats-on-lake-erie/#ooid=cxc2RnNjqfRsGuoDLh0jXrDP-iT0YCWQ[/video]

Yeah, it was just a little catagory 1 hurricane eh?... nothing to be afraid of.

 

[Home Cookin']

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This was my Marina before Hurricane Sandy hit Cleveland on Monday night into Tuesday morning. I shot this video at around 6:30pm. Shortly after the blue steel breakwall broke and let the 10 - 12 footers brewing inside the harbor into the marina destroying the docks and sinking 7 boats. Nextdoor at Edgewater Marina 30 boats sunk.

Here is the aftermath of Sandy

wow--what were your winds? How long sustained?

I've never felt like floatting docks are safe from big storms, but they are more and more popular. During the storm here i was watching one moving its concrete poles back and forth, and the cement deck was rippling like a shaken rug.

It doesn't look like anyone there uses pilings, but they just tie to the floating dock, so when you get wave action there's that much more pulling on them. I prefer to moor so the boat isn't touching the dock.

A friend has a big sailboat up in his yard--same boat landed in another friend's yard last storm. Needs more cinderblocks!

 

[Yacht Dr.]

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Andrew isn't even in the top 30 deadliest hurricanes:

Deadliest U.S. Hurricanes of All Time | Weather Underground

People get killed in hurricanes nowadays because they don't take heed to the warnings and evacuation orders.

Had Sandy been a category 5 the death toll would've been catastrophic.

They skewed the death toll Jig ..

I was there.. we saw the freezer trucks coming from the south at the wee morning hours.

We drove to Florida City with a trunk full of Ice in a Fiat Spider ( LOL but thats all we had and wanted to help ). Let me tell you brother .. there was NOTHING left. No buildings..not a tree standing..NOTHING. They were not evacuated !. Not a lot of illegals were counted either.

Thousands died. .. Im not pulling your leg man.

I really wish I could give you a few scanned pics of the days after ( In Miami-Coconut Grove ) that I took in 35mm. They were taken lets say.

Total .. Utter .. Destruction ..

YD.

 

[laserbrn]

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I always find it amusing when people here locally say "I'd rather live somewhere that has earthquakes once in awhile than a place with hurricanes/tornado's ALL of the time". I was just looking at death tolls for earthquakes and hurricanes...seems hurricanes are a better bet. That warning seems to go a long way.

 

[JEBar]

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last week we were in the first week of what was scheduled to be a two week camping trip in a campground near Gloucester, Va .... on Friday morning word began to spread through the campground that there was a high probability that it would be closed down by 4PM Saturday .... within an hour it was confirmed that the Sheriff of that area had in fact ordered the evacuation .... I didn't see any sort of panic or strong emotion from the owners of any of the hundreds of campers .... for us to decide what to do was no problem, all we had to do was pack up and drive 4 hours to our home .... however, many of the others were full time RV'ers who had to make an instant decision as to where to go .... I have to hand it to all of the folks who made decisions, those who loaded their boats on trailers, struck camp, and pulled out with well practiced ease .... once we got home we continued to follow reports as Hurricane Sandy pounded the area around the campground .... we can't help but wonder just how much impact the storm had up there and we are most grateful for the local Sheriff making the decision to get so many folks out of harm's way

Jim

 

[straightleg]

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I have been in my 21ft boat on lake Erie. 3-6 footers. I get off the lake when it gets above 4.
Been in a commercial 32 ft fishing boat in 6-8 footers fishing. That was nuts.

I hear they had 20ft waves at lake Erie. It is a shallow lake, maybe a 20-30ft average. 20ft. Man that would be something to see from a safe distance.



SL

 

[jacobmeyers]

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wow--what were your winds? How long sustained?

I've never felt like floatting docks are safe from big storms, but they are more and more popular. During the storm here i was watching one moving its concrete poles back and forth, and the cement deck was rippling like a shaken rug.

It doesn't look like anyone there uses pilings, but they just tie to the floating dock, so when you get wave action there's that much more pulling on them. I prefer to moor so the boat isn't touching the dock.

A friend has a big sailboat up in his yard--same boat landed in another friend's yard last storm. Needs more cinderblocks!

There were sustained 50mph winds on the lake shore with 70mph gusts. The lake had 23 footers past the Cleveland breakwall.

 

[Home Cookin']

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JEBar, Gloucester did fine. Basic northeaster flooding, trop storm winds. Thing is, you don't know until it's too late whether it would be easy or rough. Because i had to travel on the weekend I got my boat out at the last minute--but I was set up for a quick extraction.

Those who are used to the storms seldom panic. Hurricane prep and un-prep is just a routine like getting out the Christmas stuff and putting it away again. Because it's a chore, people get complacent after a few non-event storms (like this one for us) and then get whacked by the next one, unprepared (like this one could have done to us, and did to NJ).

Jacob, you had the conditions that we often have for trop storms and northeasters here, every couple years. Is that an unusual amount of wind/waves for your set up? I'm assuming so based on the damage.

 

[26aftcab454]

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the news reports show big boats piled up like match sticks... good luck iboaters!

 

[ricohman]

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the news reports show big boats piled up like match sticks... good luck iboaters!

I've seen this more than a few times on the news. After is all over, do any of these boats end up being resold, like sunken cars?

 

[aspeck]

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In the thread over on Dockside, Angus said:

The National Guard is doing a great job. Went around with them yesterday filling jerry jugs with fuel from destroyed boats. Getting fuel and non perishable food is key goal now. Water truck in town was a welcome sight.

Thought it was interesting they were getting their fuel from the boats that were piled up. Good use of resources ... and keeps the pollution down.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

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In the thread over on Dockside, Angus said:

Thought it was interesting they were getting their fuel from the boats that were piled up. Good use of resources ... and keeps the pollution down.

After Hugo hit there was a megayacht that just filled up prior to the storm. He sold his fuel out of his boat for the same price as he bought it for. He was the tanker that got things going on St. Thomas IMO.

We had boats 2 blocks up the shoreline after Andrew .. fuel ( and other things such as drives ) was the first to go.

Its water and food that you really need.

YD.

 

[JEBar]

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JEBar, Gloucester did fine. Basic northeaster flooding, trop storm winds. Thing is, you don't know until it's too late whether it would be easy or rough.

good to hear .... did you hear of much in the way or power outages in that area

Jim

 

[Blacksting]

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good to hear .... did you hear of much in the way or power outages in that area

Jim

Long Island had 4' of water in the streets and boats sitting inside houses. theres' a kerfew the national guard is upholding because of looters and price gouging at the pumps is up to $4.77/gal. . my aunts basement was filled with water to the ceiling and fema finally came yesterday. but we are fortunate , noone i know died .
theres a woman in staten island who was driving her car with 2 small children and she opened the door to let her husband in . the water rushed in and swooped the kids out to their demise . my prayers are with her .

 

[Home Cookin']

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Before/After Hurricane Sandy Photos Show How Storm Devastated East Coast (INTERACTIVE PICTURES)

interesting before/after pictures; the last one is a Long Island marina. The failure of some of the floating piers but not others is interesting. I suspect the ones that flaoted away had too short pilings. That almost happened in a hurricane here and they went and extended all the cement pilings another 4 feet.

 

[Ned L]

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You've probably all seen, but ... in short, the "Jersey Shore" is no longer. Houses gone, roads gone, land gone, condos gone, marinas gone,

 

[Chris1956]

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The barrior islands on the Jersey shore were terribly damaged. The ocean broke thru in some areas. I will guess the storm surge was fierce on the ocean side.

I am on Barnegat Bay, but live on the mainland. Storm surge was 8 foot on the bay, which gave me 2' of salt water in my house. What a mess. Left 1/2" of mud everywhere, and corroded, warped and saturated everything metal, wood or stuffed. Neighbors with greater southern exposure to the bay had waves breaking in their houses, knocking out walls and windows. Some cars floated away. Lots of my neighbors had boats from a nearby marina float into their yards. Damage to houses and property can be very different, even if the two properties were close.

 

[pyrotek]

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I'm in southern CT on Long Island Sound. Marinas frantically pulled all the boat out of the slips. There were only a few boats left in the water. The marina's parking lots are fairly low. It turns out, the docks didn't slip off the pilings and the few boats in the water were ok. The water came up so high it knocked almost every boat off the jack stands. Boats are all leaning on each other like dominos. Nothign dramatic like the NJ pictures, but there is a ton of small dings and dent from them leaning and bumping into each other. I imagine the fiberglass guys are going to be extremely busy. Some boats floated across streets into neighbor's yards. They look ok, but I can't imagine those props, rudders, etc, don't need to be re-aligned or straigtened.

I don't see how the marinas will be able to keep up with all the repairs. The repairs are fairly minor, but the repairs probably need to happen to near every boat.

I took mine home and placed it near a giant oak tree. I wasn't sure if under the oak tree or at the marina was safer. Guess I got lucky. Oak tree held up.