I almost hate to ask this question....

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

I don't know a thing about your problem but my question is, "Are you sure your battery and it's connections are good?"

yeah, that's all good to go.

 

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

I got my blind ordered part in today....didn't fix it. Still waiting on the manual for it. I kinda goofed when I ordered the part. I thought I was ordering #72 which is listed as the coil on the site. I asked here what #20 was because it was listed as pp ay and was informed it was the powerpack. Well, I got #20 in and it's listed as the coil on the invoice and box so is #72 the powerpack??

 

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

it's running. I chased the kill switch wire today and found that it doesn't go to the big red plug. I unhooked the kill switch completely and it fired right up. Actually, it shocked the **** out of me first when I was testing for spark and had my son working the key. I don't think I've ever been that happy to get shocked in my life.

 

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

well, back to square 1. Went out there today to start it and no spark again. I have to believe that it wasn't just a fluke it started sparking and running yesterday when I unhooked that kill switch. I'm going to keep chasing wires and hopefully I find something. I would like to unhook just that black/yellow kill wire and see if that's shorting to ground somewhere. I don't see a single plug for it really....I'd have to cut it and then splice it back together which I'm not a fan of doing. I'd just be creating another potential problem area down the road. I still may end up doing that and soldering it back together.

If anyone has any idea's or tips I'm all ears.

 

[Mark Hennessy]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

I realize your problem is solved for now. Invest in a plastic tool box and start buying stuff as you need it for the boat. A set of jumper wires with alligator clips would have acted as extra hands for you. If you can find an old push button switch you can bypass the ignition switch and operate it remotely. A long piece of heavy stranded wire, 6 - 10 feet, with heavy clips can bypass the battery to ignition or coil etc. Don't worry, you'll need them all again, especially if you boat in salt water.

Good luck. Glad you got it running.

 

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

I realize your problem is solved for now. Invest in a plastic tool box and start buying stuff as you need it for the boat. A set of jumper wires with alligator clips would have acted as extra hands for you. If you can find an old push button switch you can bypass the ignition switch and operate it remotely. A long piece of heavy stranded wire, 6 - 10 feet, with heavy clips can bypass the battery to ignition or coil etc. Don't worry, you'll need them all again, especially if you boat in salt water.

Good luck. Glad you got it running.

it was running....no spark again today. I have jumpers with alligator clips but they're not a heavy enough gauge of wire. I made one out of some 10 gauge I think it was to jump it the one time but that black/yellow kill wire doesn't go through the red plug so I'm not sure how much that helps me.
I'm about tired of messing with this thing. I really thought I had it yesterday when I unhooked that kill switch but guess I was wrong.

 

[samo_ott]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

To answer your question way back. #20 is the powerpack and #72 is the ignition coil and there should be one per cylinder, thus 2 for a 2 cylinder engine.

 

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

thanks. Very frustrating for sure. Yesterday it fired up like it was brand new after I disconnected the kill switch. I started it maybe 4 or 5 times yesterday to make sure it was good to go and it lit up every single time. Then today back to no spark.

This evening I checked that kill switch and it's good. Showed continuity with the button out. I disconnected the black/yellow wire off of the ignition switch altogether and still no spark.
What exactly does unhooking the red plug rule out? My manual is en route but I'd like to continue chasing wires until it gets here. I found a generic wiring diagram but a lot of the wires I see back there aren't listed. It almost has to be a short somewhere I would think. Today while messing with it I saw 1 spark 1 time and that was it. I would like to unhook everything from the motor forward and see if I can get it to spark. That would at least tell me if my short is on the engine or on the harness. Can I just unplug everything from the engine forward?

 

[0rion]

Re: I almost hate to ask this question....

making some progress I think......I hope. I found a small chaffe in the blue "trim up" wire that looked like it might be grounding to the rectifier. I unhooked all the trim wires and it started getting spark. I plugged it back in and spark went away but came right back. I then tried to hold that chaffe on the rectifier to get it to ground out again and see if spark went away but couldn't get it to replicate.....still gets spark. I want to make sure that's the wire that's causing the issue before settling on it being fixed. I moved a lot of wires around getting those unplugged and out where I could work on them. I'm wondering if that chaffe was my problem or if there's another problem and me moving the wires around temporarily fixed it. I plan on focusing in that area and going over all those wires closely.
If that trim up was in fact shorting out will that cause a no spark condition?