I did it

studlymandingo

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I ordered a jack plate yesterday with a 10" setback. After some help from Dhadley in the prop forum, I decided a jack plate with some setback would make my rig perform better. I have to try and be patient while I wait for UPS now. In the meantime, I'm going to spend some time this weekend testing the boat as-is in various conditions so I will have some reference to how the boat behaves with the new equipment. I will also take some wake pictures before and after to post to see if there is any difference there. My boat is a pretty heavy 18'6" center console with a 150HP V-6 Mariner on the back. I'm running a 21P SS Prop that currently revs to 5200 at WOT, right now I'm not getting any blowout with the prop, so I'm hoping the setback and height adjustment will allow me to get up a little more in the RPM range with the same pitch.

 

Gary H NC

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Re: I did it

I know you will be watching that UPS tracking number too...:D
 

Texasmark

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Listen to your dogs. Mine can hear old brown a mile away and start barking. Sometimes the driver gives them dog biscuits because it's a love thing between them.

Good luck,

Mark
 

Gary H NC

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Listen to your dogs. Mine can hear old brown a mile away and start barking. Sometimes the driver gives them dog biscuits because it's a love thing between them.

Good luck,

Mark
For some reason my dog hates the brown truck...maybe i'll give the driver a box of the dogs favorite treats. As often as that truck comes they need to be friends..:rolleyes:
 

grimpy

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Re: I did it

a little off topic but your boat rocks... you have more pictures of it?
 

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You are on the absolute right path and with the guidance of Dhadley you can not go wrong.

Got fresh GPS batteries for the testing :D

Everytime I want to test......... I have rough conditions..... just lucky.
 

studlymandingo

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Here are the before-jack results:

Conditions today were pretty good, 2-3 foot swells, light chop with a breeze out of the west.
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Me, 28 gallons of fuel, and a 74lb Golden Retriever. The following results were heading directly into the wind.

WOT was just over 5K
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Starting the climb.
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Moving up
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Started getting a little bouncy here.
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I actually got up to 44.8 on the run, but none of the pics came out; a little too bouncy! Couldn't have even taken any photos if it weren't for the hydraulic steering. The fuel economy was better at 44.5.
Here's the wake...
pre-jackwake.jpg

When I got closer to land, the water was much flatter; I was only able to get up to about 43.7

Tomorrow I'll be running with 3 more adults to get some more results with a little more weight. Hopefully the jack will be in next week; I'm out of town next weekend, but maybe I can get set up and get her out before Thursday afternoon.

 

studlymandingo

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Today I had 5 adults, 1 dog, full cooler, full fuel (55 gal.) WOT 5200, GPS 40.1.​
 

Gary H NC

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Really cool pics Studley! You can tell you were cruising pretty fast:D
I wonder how much more speed the jackplate will give ya?
That Navman is nice!! I want one!
 

studlymandingo

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I can hardly wait for the jack plate; I'm gonna be in your shoes this weekend though Gary. I'm out of town from Wednesday through next Monday. Gonna be sitting there thinking about my new jack plate.

The Navman is a great system. It has the fuel flow sensor which helps to keep an accurate eye on the onboard fuel as well as let me tweak my settings to get the best possible economy. The chart is easy to read and refreshes quickly. I got it from a seller on eBay for a great price. The fuel screen which is in the photos is great because you can see the speed well in big letters; the chart screen can be a little tricky trying to read the speedo while you are skipping across waves at 45!​
 

studlymandingo

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The jack plate is on! Hooked the lifting eye to a come-a-long attached to my big live oak in the backyard. Took the bolts out and gently lifted the beast off of the transom. I used tons of 4200 when installing the plate and motor, and used some over-sized washers on the inside of the splashwell.

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The water was REALLY choppy today; actually there were some 6' seas! I stayed mostly in Big Bayou that was protected some from the serious wave action; though I did venture out into the big stuff just to see how she did.

I didn't have my GPS with me because I was only planning on taking a short ride; I will post my speeds when I go out tomorrow.

The 10" setback definitely changed the angle of thrust; the attitude was quite different. I started out with the motor slightly above the height which it was originally mounted on the transom. Running at this height the stern seemed very low, most likely due to the fact that the leverage was different with the set-back, and the fact the jack plate pushed the motor back with the angle of the transom. I raised the motor a bit more and ran again, I could definitely tell there was much less of my boat in the water. The jack plate was picking up water and spraying it to the side considerably at lower speed, and when I slowed to a stop, it would scoop a good bit and direct it right into the boat!!!:eek: I ended up running with the motor raised a good 2 1/2" above where it normally runs. There was very little hull in the water, my RPMs got up to where they should be at WOT, around 5400. I was skipping across the chop, the attitude was good; looking sternward it was really strange to see my motor that high up. My water pressure was about 18psi at WOT so I was good there. As I mentioned earlier, I had no GPS with me so I was unaware of my actual speed but I could tell I was really moving along. I moved out of the protected waters into the bay, man was it rough! There were some 6' waves capping; the boat was handling differently than what I am used to as I was riding much higher than normal. I was getting splashed pretty good with the combination of strong winds and big waves, but the boat handled it fairly well.

Here you can see the height at which I was running the motor. My hull has a bit of a step at the rear, my A/V is slightly above the step, not the keel.

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Hopefully the wind will be a bit calmer tomorrow; I will hook up the GPS and get some speeds.

T H Marine makes a plate for the bottom of the jack plate that is essentially like a trim tab for the center of the boat. It is advertised as such; I think I will definitely have to get one as I think it will stop the wash when slowing down as well as the spray when running at median speeds. It really seems like it would be standard with the jack.​
 
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