I got a (new)question for you Starcraft guys, Officially a Project

[TruckDrivingFool]

Not impressed with the orange stank stuff I decided to try can anyone point me to the super duper aircraft stripper that everyone refers to?

Also still looking for options to fill the demo damage left in the transom.

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Little more just to be sure I'm not doing it wrong,

Tested on SW using Zinsser Magic Strip Citrus Action Gel

Put heavy coat on waited an hour, only bubbling up the top layer of rattle can black I put on when I rehabbed to seaworthy condition. Tried scraping took some of top coat off but no more and seemed kinda dried out. Reapplied even heavier coat waited another hour. This soften up the 2nd coat of black a PO had put on and spots of the 3rd coat of grey. Scraped and got about 1/2 the black coats off, 20 min w/ my cheap electric powerwasher and I'm here

 

[Woodonglass]

I talked to my neighbor, the Car Body man and he says this stuff is what they use...

Says it really works well. I dunno cuz I've never used it!!!:noidea:

 

[bonz_d]

About all I've ever used is Zip-Strip because I can readily get it locally. It works OK and is not overly expensive. Sometimes take 2 or 3 applications on stubborn paint.

 

[g0nef1sshn]

the orange citrus strip worked ok for me, but did best when layered on good and covered in plastic. But it usually always seemed to take off one coat at a time. It works, Just not as fast and lethal as kleen strip did for me. I think it depends on if its original coat and primer, or several additional of PO coats. And how well additional coats were prepped.

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Thanks guys,

Per the 3M site the Mar-hyde is discontinued and only online place I found it looks to be an expensive proposition. I'm going to do some looking locally as I saw a couple videos on YouTube that looked promising using it.

I think (hope) the red is the original color so that means three coats on the top side and looks like two on the hull. That's a lot of elbow grease one coat at a time.:blue:

Just not as fast and lethal as kleen strip did for me​

Which model of Kleanstrip is the lethal one?

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Look what someone found at his local O'Reilly's



The black and grey stood no chance and was gone in 10 min. The red however is a true testament to quality. First coat (that claimed the black and grey) bubbled it a little, a second coat bubbled it and about 1/2 came off with the scraper. I decided more elbow grease was required to get it completely gone so starting at one end, I dabbed a third coat on, and commenced scrubbing the stripper in with this.



This technique done until the red was a loose swirly goo followed by a good power wash left me with happy results. There's still a few small spots that just will not budge no matter what. These I guess will require some drillbrush time but I'm going to have to get it out for the left over sealer that is hanging on in spots.

SW as good as done



Technique in hand I'm ready to take on the rest of the boat. :der:

For my glasser friends :hug: take solace in the fact that paint stripping is the grinding of the tin world, it just doesn't suck nearly as much though.

 

[Woodonglass]

What's the cost on that stripper? I've been told that laying some plastic sheeting over the stripper can make it a bit more effective.:noidea:

 

[BWR1953]

Awesome! Will keep this for future reference.

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Cost was $44/gallon for reference the Zinnser was $19.99 for 1/2gal. Used maybe 3/4 quart to do this.

My first coat I did cover with some plastic sheeting and didn't see much of a benefit. Factors that may have effected that are -

1.) I tried too large an area for how thick I coated it. Worked in sections and covered as I went but seemed to be drying out before I got the whole thing coated.
2.) Plastic sheeting didn't/wouldn't get really airtight to the surface. Next shot at this I'm going try cling wrap (thinner) to see if I can get a better seal and if that will give any benefit.

 

[dozerII]

The plastic wrap that trucking companies use to wrap pallets of boxes works real good and is way cheaper than the kitchen product.

 

[64osby]

On the wood that the 5200 / splashwell removed. If that is the wood for the transom best bet would be to just replace it with new. My .02.

 

[GA_Boater]

For my glasser friends :hug: take solace in the fact that paint stripping is the grinding of the tin world, it just doesn't suck nearly as much though.

True, true. But after the stripping is over, we can paint. The other guys still have to put back all the stuff they ground away. :

I don't know what paint or technique the factory used, but I wish we could duplicate that in the hinterland. That stuff is tough!

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Dozer - Dunno why I didn't think of that will have to see if I can make off with an almost dead roll from work.

Osby - I've been able to check where I thought water had got it at the motor mount holes and they were well sealed w/ 5200. The wood is dry and in good shape so being only four yrs old and most likely really gooped in there w/ 5200 I hate to think about trying to pull it out. I thinking since I'll be getting epoxy to seal the floor anyway I can hopefully make some filler and fill/reseal it all in one step.

GA and any others that might know - I thought at one time I saw something about SC baking the finish, do I recollect right? Or is that standard to most paint finishes?

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

How to turtle a boat by yourself (ok I had a helper for part of it)

Shove boat and trailer out into yard



Push boat off trailer and discover you shoved the trailer too close to the house to slide it out from under boat and winch boat back onto trailer.



Spend some actual thinking time to get trailer correct distance from house and push boat off trailer



With back of boat on the ground pull the trailer the rest of the way out letting the bow roll down the last roller gently to the ground



Was going to film this step but my helper from the first pic got bored with boat stuff and went inside to watch YouTube so you'll have to trust me that this is how it went.

Roll boat onto side and walk around transom end to let down to ground upside down

Once upside down prop the bow up with a 2x4 and inch trailer back under it







Once you get the trailer about halfway under use the 2x4 to ride the bow across the keel rollers while you lift the transom and push.



And voila turtled boat on the trailer ready to strip and paint.



All in all went a lot smoother than I thought and only took about 45 min. I did end up taking the winch stand off to get it further up on the trailer. In fact it went so smooth that I decided to give the orange stank a second test. Since I have more continuous time to devote to this and orange stank claims a 24hr open working time I coated half the bottom. Going to let it sit over night and see if it will do anything.



Due to current local temps I don't have a lot of faith in it doing much. Best case I can go out tomorrow and the paint will peel off in sheets, worst I scrape it all back off hose it down and hope for some warmer weather before next spring to get some paint stripping done.

 

[jbcurt00]

SC used a baked on vinyl paint. Not sure what else the vinyl based paint does, but absolutely makes a tough finish to strip.

Many finishes are baked on, but I dont think anyones ever posted @ iboats their boat getting a new baked on finish.

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

SC used a baked on vinyl paint. Not sure what else the vinyl based paint does, but absolutely makes a tough finish to strip.

Many finishes are baked on, but I dont think anyones ever posted @ iboats their boat getting a new baked on finish.

Thanks for the info on the factory finish JB. In my earlier pondering I was only considering OEM finishes hadn't thought of DIY baked on.

 

[jbcurt00]

I meant like a Maaco booth spray and bake, but w heat lamps and some tarps I guess you could rig one.

Nice work on the turtle. Even in cool temps, covering the stripper w plastic will likely help.

Cooling off daily here, but at least its been 2 days since it rained :facepalm:

 

[bonz_d]

Truck, good job. I know it's not easy trying to do it alone. I've been trying to recruit some help myself to move one out of the garage so I can get the Sea Nymph in there to finish it up. But every time I'm ready the weather gives up.

 

[GA_Boater]

Now you got a place to hide from the Admiral, TDF. LOL Good job flippin'.

I was looking through the brochures, but never found the paint info. JB kept digging. :smile: It is tough stuff, for sure.