I have some explaining to do

notaz3

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If you where at lake Kaweah (East of Visalia, CA) today, I have some explaining to do?

My first post, as well as my first day being a boat owner (technically the bank owns it, but I?m making payments;) ).

The day started out great. Weather was hot and I was taking possession of my brand new boat. Get to the dealer early so all last minute papers can be signed, and everything can be taken care of. Expert sales staff helps me hook everything up to the truck. First oops, forgot to get the adapter for the five flat wire connector and truck has four or seven round. No worries I just go into their parts department and pick one up. Now it is off to the dealers ?on the water orientation? as I?m new to a boat that can be put on a trailer (or one that can be operated with less than a few hundred people).

Everything is connected and working so off we go. Get to the lake and start the pre staging. Second oops, there is no stern tie downs. Seems the dealer feels it is okay to tow with just the bow hooked to the winch. Should I be concerned with this (I?m getting straps tomorrow)?

Pull over to the launch ramp and it is long and steep (Did I mention I haven?t towed a trailer in a very long time?). Nice thing is it?s a wide ramp and there is no one on it. Takes me a few tries but I manage to get the trailer down without hitting anything but water. I came down kind of in the middle of a ramp wide enough for three and we are going to be practicing pulling on and off the trailer, so the dealer jumps in my truck to straighten it out and put it to one side. The wife and I jump in the boat and get ready for some education and practice.

We pull off the trailer without any problems, and head a little way from the dock. Take it back to the trailer and load back up again complete with connecting the winch without any problems. The wife and I both do this a few times (Wife got the hang of it quicker than expected making me proud). There was only one other boat that launched during this, and there was room for three so we didn?t take up any space. Once we felt comfortable with the trailer thing it?s time to get the boat off the ramp.

Did I mention that I had the dealer move my truck? Well here comes oops number three, seems I didn?t tell him that my truck will arm the alarm two minutes after the last door is closed. He said no problem I left the window down. Well the alarm also closes the windows and locks the doors. Now we have a truck sitting on the ramp (thankfully it was off to the side), with the keys locked inside. One call to AAA and a tow truck is on the way.

Decided, we had no way of moving the truck for a while so we head out a little and just keep the truck in view. After about twenty minutes we headed back over and practices some more with the trailer, as well as docking. The ramp started to get some business, so we just hung out connected to the trailer (this way we could explain to people that we where dumb not rude). During that time I got to watch some of the ramp follies. We saw a house boat launch with about eight people aboard. There was a nice wake boat doing the ?put up top, load everything? routine (not that I could judge seeing as I blocked the ramp for about 45 minutes).

Finally tow truck arrives and twenty second later we are able to move the truck and get it up the ramp to the parking lot (Thank you AAA). Sent the dealer home (he had done his part in training and helping us make our first mistakes). We spent the next two hours enjoying the lake and our new boat. Then we loaded up, pulled off the ramp, checked everything (I have got to get stern straps) and headed home.

Tow home was very uneventful (other than my lead foot does not like going 55 and neither does the truck). Got home and found out that ?yes my boat and truck will both fit in the garage? with minimal maneuvering of trailer to get it to one side.

For a day that started out great, it ended even better. Now I have a story to tell, along with my new boat. And we didn?t forget the plug or the out drive.

Oh and by the way an F250 four door, and a Glastron GLX 185 can both fit in a two car garage, with enough room to get in and out of ether (even though it?s not much), we just had to demote the van to the driveway.
 

rjlipscomb

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Congratulations.
Suggestion: write down your procedures for prep, launch and recovery. Review them each time until they become boringly routine. :)
 

notaz3

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Re: I have some explaining to do

I?m actually finishing up my check list now.

I had started it a few days ago, but left it at home seeing I was going out for my ?On-the-Water-Orientation, Instruction and Delivery by Qualified and Trained Master Dealership personnel?. First on list; my boat, my responsibility.

Thanks to this forum though, I know all about the importance of the drain plug, and to raise the stern drive.
 

rjlipscomb

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Re: I have some explaining to do

and insurance...

You'd be surprised how quickly you start to make simple mistakes as you feel more comfortable with the launch/recovery operation in the midst of all the other activities going on at the ramp. Always remember to take your time and get it right. Remember safety first.
 

HappierWet

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Re: I have some explaining to do

QUESTION: Did you ask the dealer to move the rig over or did he take upon himself to just jump in........?
Other than that .... mistakes happen. At least the ramp wasn't packed.

Congrats on the new boat.:)
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Locking keys in the vehicle on the ramp becomes a little more tense on a rising tide....
Sounds like you have a great approach to boating and will be a pleasure to have on the water. Too bad others aren't as considerate and concerned.

Oh and your dealer needs to read the posts under "trailering" about not using straps.
 

ezmobee

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Sounds like you have a great approach to boating and will be a pleasure to have on the water.

I agree with HC. You'll fit in great around here. Welcome to iBoats and start a post somewhere with pics of your new boat (or in the show your whips thread). We're junkies for that around here. And get some transom straps ASAP. Personally I think the boat buckle things you mount on the trailer and just pull them up like seatbelts and attach them to the boat look to be a great idea.
 

cpubud

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Re: I have some explaining to do

congrates on the new boat,just take it slow and everything will become second nature. welcome to iboats.
 

Kracken

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Re: I have some explaining to do

No apologies needed we were all newbies at one point. Your first time escapades are minimal and just something you can look back and chuckle at. We all at one time pull a stupid human trick..

We had a guy on Winni take his Cobalt 25 ft bowrider out for a maiden voyage. He put 7 passengers on his new toy (most sat up front) and took off to the broads. He planted his bow into a wave and parked the boat 65 feet down on the lake bottom. Fortunatly nobody was injured however I don?t think he will ever be able to look back at his first time and chuckle
 

notaz3

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Rjlipscomb; Got insurance before taking delivery. I?m also one to follow a check list (now that I have it written) so hopefully there will not be any more mistakes.

HappierWet; I let the dealer jump in to speed things along.

Home-Cooking; Nice thing was it was a reservoir and the level actually lowered some while we were there.

Exmobee; I?ve got the transom straps today. Actually got the boat buckle?s and they seem nice. My other dealer (the one I wish sold my kind of boat) showed me that there offered on the high end Skeeter as factory equipped, so I went for it.

Today I hooked up the boat, and did some fake launching. Even did some walking around with the check list as if it was going to be put in the water. It was a good time getting used to backing the boat up so hopefully next time at the ramp I?ll be quicker.

Tomorrow we are going out to a little privet lake (just a little ski strip actually) to spend some time working on skills in the water. We can spend however much time we need, it looks like we will be the only ones there.

I would like to say thanks to this forum. I?ve gotten a lot of information from here. This all makes the boating experience more pleasant with a good idea of what to expect.
 

Nobody

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Re: I have some explaining to do

You'd be surprised how quickly you start to make simple mistakes as you feel more comfortable with the launch/recovery operation in the midst of all the other activities going on at the ramp. Always remember to take your time and get it right. Remember safety first.

Ain't that the truth. I was out fishing with a buddy and his son yesterday and forgot both the transom straps and the bow safety strap, fortunately I remembered all that stuff when I dropped them off in the day use parking lot and did a walk around.

Nice sled you got there notaz3.
 

rjlipscomb

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Tomorrow we are going out to a little privet lake (just a little ski strip actually) to spend some time working on skills in the water. We can spend however much time we need, it looks like we will be the only ones there.

Just a suggestion:
When I started boating (17 ft Four Winns), an experienced (old salt mariner) friend showed me a trick. Throw your anchor in the water with a large ball float on the end and not a lot of slack on the line. Practice approaching and maneuvering around the ball both forward and backwards. I practiced this until I felt like the boat was an extension of my will. We kept the boat in a Keys marina. I would drop the boat off at night for take-out the next morning. There were a lot of expensive boats along the dock with limited space for me to tie up. The practice gave me the assurance that I could get in and out without damaging the other boats. :)
 

jay_merrill

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Sounds like you had a good day, even if there were a couple of bumps in the road. Have fun with the new boat!
 

capt_neo

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Congratrulations on your new boat notaz3. I am sure you and the family will have years of enjoyment with it. (I don't believe I saw where the type of boat was mentioned?)

Anyway, not to hijack this thread, but I have noticed a number of responses promoting the ideas of safety (right on), and writing down your procedures for launch, retrival, etc. (also a great suggestion).

I am returning to boating after approximately a ten-year hiatus. Having just purchased a new 34' Cruiser and unfortunately also being assigned to bed for the last three weeks due to herniated discs (that's anoter story), I have been laying here and have been thinking of creating a laminated check list that I can keep at the helm for use during departure and arrivals (I was also thinking it would be a very good piece of reading material should I have guests aboard and when they offer to lend a hand, etc., I can hand them the check list (similar to what I've done while flying). :)

So my question is basically this; notaz3 and folks such as myself (I am not too proud to say I fear I've got some rusty skills) would benefit greatly from a checklist-type of aid. Has iboats members ever created one that has been kept on some thread or link that new members can access? If not, perhaps we need to create a new thread and develop such a thing?

What do all you'all think?

notaz3; best of luck with the new boat. As an aside to your post and backing up on the ramp, etc., many years ago when I first started trailering, I went out on a sunday morning and found a large empty parking lot with well-marked parking lanes. I brought a few plastic trash cans along and used them as markers (along with the marked parking spots) and proceeded to practice my "backing up" skills with the boat & trailer. It didn't take too long to get proficient at it. Just a thought...
 

notaz3

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Capt_neo; I was thinking of the same thing with the laminated check list. That is actually how I found this forum, I was looking for one.

Does anyone have such a check list they could share with us rookies?

Well I?m heading out to the empty lots and streets around the house to practice the trailer thing. Then it?s off to a little puddle to practice boating. Hopefully I?ll be more prepared for the public launching tomorrow.
 

Ripfence

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Re: I have some explaining to do

It sounds like you chose a great dealer. I used Bass Pro and they offered me no such on the water help.

Welcome to iBoats
 

RickJ6956

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Re: I have some explaining to do

May I offer a suggestion about backing your trailer? Put your hand on the bottom of the steering wheel. If you want the trailer to go to the right, move your hand (and the wheel) to the right. For left, move the wheel to the left.

You'll get the hang of it.
 

SuzukiChopper

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Re: I have some explaining to do

May I offer a suggestion about backing your trailer? Put your hand on the bottom of the steering wheel. If you want the trailer to go to the right, move your hand (and the wheel) to the right. For left, move the wheel to the left.

You'll get the hang of it.

Read that here a few years ago and the best advice backing up a trailer ever.

To add to it... a little goes a long way when you're turning the wheel.
 

wajajaja02

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Re: I have some explaining to do

and you didnt mention a bow safety strap,or chain, if the trailer doesnt have one , add that too, the winch strap isnt enough
 

strokeoluck

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Re: I have some explaining to do

Congrats on your new boat; that's exciting stuff.

I completely agree w/the comment that it would be nice if iboats had a somewhat standard list for newer boaters. I created this very list this spring, and laminated it. It's come in handy every single time. A few experienced boaters (like my Dad) chuckled at me, but I credit the list to keeping our mistakes to a minimum (though we've certainly made them!). When I get into trouble is when I start getting into the mode of thought that I know it all. Last time we had the boat out I forgot to put the drive up when we pulled it out of the water. Fortunately the ramp area was pretty steep and I caught it in the parking lot before we hit the road.

Anyway, here's my list. Keep in mind that we just have an 18' boat and trailer it to inland lakes near our house. So this list may need to be adjusted for your use...

* PRE-DEPARTURE:
- Receiver is firmly in place w/cotter pin attached
- Both chains are attached and criss-crossed
- Coupler is secure and pinned in place (bring coupler lock!)
- Trailer wire is plugged in
- Emergency brake cable is connected
- Trailer jack is raised and locked in place
- Boat is snug up against bow stop
- Lights/turn signals are working
- All wheel lug nuts are tight
- Tire pressure ok
- Drain plug is in place
- Turn off all lights and accessories
- Drive is tilted up
- Gassed up
- All toys are in place and secured
- Necessary # of PFD's on board
- Fire extinguisher on board
- Close windshield; ensure engine cover is securely latched

* AT BOAT LAUNCH PREP AREA:
- Remove tie-downs
- Turn bilge blower & pump on
- Ensure drive is tilted up
- Load and stow all gear from truck
- Necessary # of PFD's are in boat
- Prepare docklines & fenders
- Make sure drain plug is in place!

* LAUNCH:
- Back in till trailer fenders are submerged
- Set parking brake, put vehicle in Park, turn engine off
- Lower the outdrive
- Start engine and let it warm up
- Disconnect winch hook from bow eye
- Push boat off

* RETRIEVING THE BOAT:
- Attach lines & fenders before approaching dock
- Raise drive
- Back trailer into water till ~2/3 of bunks are submerged
- Pull boat towards trailer, attach winch strap and winch in from there
- Attach bow strap and safety chain
- Make sure boat is snug against boat stop
- Ensure drive is raised!
- Pull away from ramp to parking space
- Attach tie-down straps
- Turn off all lights and accessories
- All equipment/toys properly secured in boat
- Remove drain plug
 
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