If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

[Boomyal]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

You peeing your pants is not a surprize because the thinking part of your brain apparently quit some time ago.

15 minutes of Rush was all I could take.

By the way checked on Fox and his shaking today. You and Rush should get some photos, as I am sure he just faked MS, damn democrats.

You are no better at reading Txs, than you are at hearing. This is the second time I have written this in answer to your innacurate hearing of what Limbaugh said.

He stated that the undecided voters (sic) were Al-qaeda. That their actions running up to the election would be defacto votes. If they quieted down, it would be a defacto vote for status quo. If they racheted up the violence, it would be a vote for the Democrats.

Subsequently, Limbaugh has stated that the previously undecided voters (Al-quada) have now cast their votes. Evidence the increased violence. As such they have cast their votes for the Dems.

It just boggles my mind that the Democratic ranks are full of voters who do not listen any better than you do. I guess that is why the likes of AlGore and John(the vet)kerry got so many votes cause the Democrats really never heard what they said.

 

[crunch]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

ahhhhhh.... Haut, I think you set your clock back too far, this is 2006... 8)

Saddam is out of power and not likely to keep his head, so to speak.

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

he'd never had a chance in Iraq
That is past tense......

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?


He stated that the undecided voters (sic) were Al-qaeda. That their actions running up to the election would be defacto votes. If they quieted down, it would be a defacto vote for status quo. If they racheted up the violence, it would be a vote for the Democrats.

Subsequently, Limbaugh has stated that the previously undecided voters (Al-quada) have now cast their votes. Evidence the increased violence. As such they have cast their votes for the Dems
What a load of CARP!
I think the escalation is from the 14,000 guns that are unaccounted for.....JK

 

[ob]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

The entire pretense of this thread is rediculous.Just another deceptive excuse to spew disdain for which you offer no substantive logic.While our troop losses in Iraq are not good news to anyone,they pale in comparison to any previous war of comparitive duration.

The average number of homicides in the US each year is 21,000.Seems we have become our own worst enemies.

Osamaa won't be voting in this election ,so I won't waste my time in speculating who the heathen would vote for.If the democrats win ,then maybe they'll give him that right at which time you can begin a new thread.

 

[PW2]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

You peeing your pants is not a surprize because the thinking part of your brain apparently quit some time ago.

15 minutes of Rush was all I could take.

By the way checked on Fox and his shaking today. You and Rush should get some photos, as I am sure he just faked MS, damn democrats.

You are no better at reading Txs, than you are at hearing. This is the second time I have written this in answer to your innacurate hearing of what Limbaugh said.

He stated that the undecided voters (sic) were Al-qaeda. That their actions running up to the election would be defacto votes. If they quieted down, it would be a defacto vote for status quo. If they racheted up the violence, it would be a vote for the Democrats.

Subsequently, Limbaugh has stated that the previously undecided voters (Al-quada) have now cast their votes. Evidence the increased violence. As such they have cast their votes for the Dems.

It just boggles my mind that the Democratic ranks are full of voters who do not listen any better than you do. I guess that is why the likes of AlGore and John(the vet)kerry got so many votes cause the Democrats really never heard what they said.

Wow!

Even from a Rush follower, Boomie, your attemped explaination of Rush's theory makes no logical sense whatsoever (neither did Rush's, of course)

As far as the original question, I think it a good one. I think it is safe to say that most all Americans realize that Osama and his ilk are the enemy--the debate here in America is how best to prosecute this effort.

As I see it, we have fundamentally two choices to be effective.
1. Carpet bomb (or nuke) the mid east back to the stone age.

2. Thru diplomatic efforts, encourage the moderate Muslim elements in the region to rid themselves of the jihadists, with our help, of course. The old carrot and stick theory. If we can't identify the moderate elements, we need to, and we need to make sure they realize they stand to benefit from joining us, or what they stand to lose if they don't.

We can't get to victory without a joint effort.

Frankly, I think Osama is very happy with the situation in Iraq. How else could he get just a few of his guys to keep the pot stirred in Iraq, and get his enemy mired in trying to keep that under control, knowing full well that when America finally does leave, the remaining Iraqi army will fold like a cheap lawn chair at the first sign of trouble as they always have in the past...

 

[rolmops]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

Even if Osama could vote,he would absolutely refuse to do so.It would not be his style.
He sees the voting process as an insult to the truth as he so clearly sees it.
He and other clerics like him have the great majority of the impoverished islamic population of this world under their control.They could not care less about democracy in their countries,because it would only confirm what they already know.
80% of the population is ruled by 10% and there is a small tightly controlled middle class.
An Egyptian friend of mine once said this about the way Egypt is ruled.
Egypt is governed as if it is still a turkish colony from a hundred years ago.The only difference is that the foreign turks have been replaced by the Egyptians who live in Heliopolis, the capital of rich Egypt.These Egyptians rule Egypt like colonial governers.

 

[PW2]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

I agree, Rolmops, that he has no interest in the voice of the people, or what they have to say. His interest is in gaining and maintaining power.

He might well have an interest in influencing elections for his own ends. He has shown it before in Spain. My contention is that if he could influence the American election, he would prefer America to continue on the same course they've been on.

 

[Vlad D Impeller]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

Even if Osama could vote,he would absolutely refuse to do so.It would not be his style.
He sees the voting process as an insult to the truth as he so clearly sees it.
He and other clerics like him have the great majority of the impoverished islamic population of this world under their control.They could not care less about democracy in their countries,because it would only confirm what they already know.
80% of the population is ruled by 10% and their is a small tightly controlled middle class.
An Egyptian friend of mine once said this about the way Egypt is ruled.
Egypt is governed as if it is still a turkish colony from a hundred years ago.The only difference is that the foreign turks have been replaced by the Egyptians who live in Heliopolis, the capital of rich Egypt.These Egyptians rule Egypt like colonial governers.

This is by far the best and most informative post on the reasoning behind the anti democratic culture of the muslim countries that spawn the Bin Ladens and such monstrous individuals.
Indeed the Pharoes are still around and are doing quite well for themselves, how ironic that their thrones are paid for by all American taxpayers,

 

[oddjob]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

I think Osama would vote for OddJob .

Wow, that wasn't very nice.

Ya maybe my gut feeling reaction was a bit over the top.My apologies Oddjob.

er..

Thx Rolmops.. I accept!d

 

[txswinner]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

I missed something. We did not go into Iraq for Osama or terrorist!!! Remember the administration took us to this war because Iraq had WMD and we knew where they were and would take them out. We would also take out Saddam.

Daddy Bush told us long ago to leave Saddam as although a bad guy was a stablizing force in the region. Or do you righties remember that.

This administration has been lead by the nose into control of oil in the mideast. No other reason has remained consistant.

Terrorism was not mentioned nor was osama when W attacked Iraq. Now W and co. seem to see Iraq as the answer to eliminating terrorism. BS and the dems will take over Congress and in two years the Presidency because the people are sick of lies and self centered promotion of this administration.

BRING HOME THE TROOPS supported by the votes "OF THE PEOPLE" next week.

 

[Terry Olson]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

Osama would vote for the Dems. We're cramping his style right now but he knows the Dem's "plan" or lack thereof will open up the playing field which is obviously to his advantage.

One thing no one has said in all of this discussion is that we had ample opportunity and reason to begin to address terrorism during the Clinton administration. Had Clinton actually done something about this 9-11 might not have taken place. Instead, he ordered a couple of ineffective bombing raids and wrung his hands about the problems of terrorism. I don't see anything truly new in the Dems "plan" today.

Sooner or later someone had to do something that might actually be effective. We can disagree about what that might be, but the viable options ran from bad to worse.

The Dems don't have a better plan than that which has been carried out by the Bush Administration. There is no better plan - no matter how ugly this one is. What the Dems are proposing is to withdraw, resume hand wringing, and wait for the next attack - and that's why Osama would vote for them.

 

[PW2]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

Terry,

You are joining the crowd here lapping up that kool-aid.

And you even get a brownie point for blaming it all on Clinton!

You'll fit right in!!!

 

[crunch]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

It's going to be fun watching the Democrats self-destruct over the next week.... John Kerry has already got the ball rolling.

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[oddjob]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

Thx Crunchy....I heard the statement on Rush at Lunch time. I just turned the volume up on my computer here at work....I've played it over and over ....A crowd of folks came over and could nopt believe what they saw and heard...So I played it again...and again...and...8)

Kerry just confirmed what all conservatives already new about the way Dems ReAlly feel..go kerry go kerry..!8)

PS- nice touch...you found the "W" button stolen whenthe dems vacated the White house...Just click on the BIG button that is now W's face..lol

 

[DJ]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

PW2 wrote:

greater than 100 American soldiers dead in October alone) is designed to affect the US elections

Dear God, we lost that in five minutes on Omaha beach in WWII. That does not make it right but what panzies we've turned out to be-Paper tigers.

Dare I say it, the Muslim exteremists, :^know it and are banking on our unwillingness/cowardness/PC.

We deserve what we get.


Maybe rodbolt has it right. Let's all bow to the Emperor Chavez in VA.

 

[txswinner]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

DWJ, Interesting you bring up D-Day. Do you recognize that a plan was in place, with operations goals, strategic planning coordinating the attack, the enemy was identified with specific targets established. The invasion included deceptive actions and a long term plan of victory.

Research of the plan included an evacuation (retreat) plan although doubtful it would be needed. The troop loss was anticipated and final victory was described.

It was not an attack made based on lies and with political and economic intentions. It was an attack with a goal of a known result that would indictate victory and successful completion of the plan.

I fell to see the comparison and fully expect that you would agree to at least this Iraq thing is not Normangee.

I see your point in that we cringe at the loss of soldiers in numbers no way comparable to D-day but we had no choice on being there. Iraq, I think we had a choice at one point and snafu'ed that. Now all of us argue on what to do.

I say BRING HOME THE TROOPS, some say I mean cut and run. We did a lot of cut and run in the Revolutionary War and it worked then. Oh yeah we were the insurrectionaries then.

For me and others like me, I need to see a total plan with goals, strategies, and yes what is victory in order to commit one more American life to this crud. W offers none. We are wondered in a world of death.

As far as killing more terrorist than they can breed. Everytime an Iraqi (good or bad) is killed the children of his or her family builds more hatred of the devil Americans. It opens them to become the terrorist of the next generation.

 

[oddjob]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?


There is/was a plan TX . The pres and the congress signed it........meanwhile, I think Jerry Springer might be on somewhere. Relax...

 

[txswinner]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

There is/was is going to be a plan. Wow where did that come from.

 

[oddjob]

Re: If Osamaa had a vote, who would he vote for?

There is/was is going to be a plan. Wow where did that come from.

I mis-spoke. Got a problem?...8)