ignition amplifier.

tigerhack

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what is the purpose of the igniton amplifier on the ignition system, my own mark mercruiser igniton thunderbolt lv but i remove it cause my distributer only have a b+ and a tach do i need to reconnect this amplifier back ? or i am good without it .
 

Bondo

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Ayuh,.........

You'll be Just Fine without it...........

Just bring your Paddle with you,........'cause the motor Won't run.........
 

Don S

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Re: ignition amplifier.

my own mark mercruiser igniton thunderbolt lv but i remove it cause my distributer only have a b+ and a tach

You want to put this in some terms that the rest of us may understand?
 

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Re: ignition amplifier.

he said,
I was drinkin with my buddies, and my buddy said I didn't need this ignition part thingamagigie... Before I could sober up I ran right to my laptop to ask yoose guys~
 

achris

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Tigerhack,

Once you start working on these engines you'll find that the manufacturers put a lot of unnecessary parts on their engines. Now that you have found the ignition amplifier you can remove some of the other 'dead weight'. Let's start with the plugs, plug leads and distributor cap... and one of the most ridiculous parts ever put on a boat, the propeller. They just cause some much excess drag, let's get rid of that straight-away... I'll leave some of the other parts for you to find... that's part of the fun of doing your own work...:D:D:D

Chris...........
 

Windykid

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Wow I didnt see responses like these coming.:eek:

Tiger explain why you dont think you need it. Maybe these guys will help you and explain the importance of the part.:)
 

tigerhack

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Wow I didnt see responses like these coming.:eek:

Tiger explain why you dont think you need it. Maybe these guys will help you and explain the importance of the part.:)

Oh my god, i am not that tech like you guys ,but i might be of more electronic knowledge...:0) now i would define the term ignition amplifier to my terms.....one the term amplify is to put to a larger quantity right ? ignition is the whole ignition system that make the boat function firing order points plugs etc, so to my term this is to boast the ignition system right ? thats all i am asking i was just not sure...because i am new to boat and i am having problem thanks in advance.
 

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Re: ignition amplifier.


A points type system does not have an amplifier.....
A points type distributer will not work on a TB IV system....
& vice versa.......;)
Is your distributer the original one?......:confused:
 

achris

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Re: ignition amplifier.

...but i might be of more electronic knowledge...

Hmmm... don't think so....


tigerhack said:
now i would define the term ignition amplifier to my terms.....one the term amplify is to put to a larger quantity right ? ignition is the whole ignition system that make the boat function firing order points plugs etc, so to my term this is to boast the ignition system right ?

Sorry, wrong again....

tigerhack said:
thats all i am asking i was just not sure...because i am new to boat and i am having problem thanks in advance.

The ignition amplifier is an electronic module design to take the signal from the position sensor inside the distributor and fire the ignition coil. It replaces only the points and condensor (capacitor to the electronic types) from the Kettering ignition system. It's absence will ensure that no spark is produced, thus rendering the rest of the engine redundant...

What exactly are the symptoms of your problem? That would be more helpful for us to help you.

Chris...........
 

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Re: ignition amplifier.

#1
my own mark mercruiser igniton thunderbolt lv but i remove it cause my distributer only have a b+ and a tach

Ayuh,........... I Agree with Don,.........
I'm still Trying to decipher This............
#2
What exactly are the symptoms of your problem? That would be more helpful for us to help you.

Ayuh,....... That Too,...... But see #1 First........


Btw,.......
Not being the Electronics type,........
I see it as a Switch, Not an Amplifier,........:)
 

achris

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Re: ignition amplifier.

...Not being the Electronics type,........
I see it as a Switch, Not an Amplifier,........:)

Ayuh,...
That's basically what it is....
With a few extra bits thrown in for good measure......

Chris.....:D:D:D
 

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Re: ignition amplifier.

A points type system does not have an amplifier.....
A points type distributer will not work on a TB IV system....
& vice versa.......;)
Is your distributer the original one?......:confused:

A points type system does not have an amplifier.....


hello,

ok, i'll bite! :confused:

my 1971 85HP evinrude has a dual set of points and... an amplifier. says so all thru the oe service manual... and it is clear in the wiring schematic.

so, if... A points type system does not have an amplifier.....

please explain??

wondering in so texas...

regards,

lakester :cool:
 

Don S

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Don't confuse things Lakester, there is little the same in an IO points system and the Thunderbolt ignition and an outboard.
We are talking Mercruiser, NOT Evenrude
 

tigerhack

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Hmmm... don't think so....




Sorry, wrong again....



The ignition amplifier is an electronic module design to take the signal from the position sensor inside the distributor and fire the ignition coil. It replaces only the points and condensor (capacitor to the electronic types) from the Kettering ignition system. It's absence will ensure that no spark is produced, thus rendering the rest of the engine redundant...

What exactly are the symptoms of your problem? That would be more helpful for us to help you.

Chris...........

take into consideration (take the signal from the position sensor and fire the igniton coil ) well it is turning a small amount of something to a vast amount, anyway i will just leave it as it is ...i am here to learn not argue perhaps i am wrong .
 

Don S

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Tiger, what color are the wires hooked to your distributor? Is the amplifier (aka ignition module) mounted on the distributor or the port exhaust manifold.
 

Lakester

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Don't confuse things Lakester, there is little the same in an IO points system and the Thunderbolt ignition and an outboard.
We are talking Mercruiser, NOT Evenrude

he said,
I was drinkin with my buddies, and my buddy said I didn't need this ignition part thingamagigie... Before I could sober up I ran right to my laptop to ask yoose guys~
__________________

sorry ds,

i should have known it was a merc thread, and not generic in scope. :rolleyes: i will try to pay better attention to thread's themes... :)

regards
lakester :cool:
 

Bondo

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Re: ignition amplifier.

i am here to learn not argue.

Ayuh,......
And That's Why We're here........To Help you......

The concept here, As I Understand it,.... Is,.....
You ask a Question,.....And somebody, Possibly more knowledgeable, will Answer....
But that Question has to be asked in a somewhat understandable common english using terms that can be identified,(reasonable spelling,+ punctuation is a Plus too) explaining exactly What is Wrong with your boat.....

When asked What a component Is,.... You might have to Go Look or somehow otherwise Identify it.......

Even though We all know that Don has a Crystal Ball,..........
The rest of Us regular posters here Don't.............

Sooooooooooo,................

If you want to back track,.....
And Identify all those Answers to all the Questions asked of you Above,..................
We'll be Glad to Help you learn what the components Are,+ How they Work..........

Btw,.................
If I owe you an apology for poking fun at you above,.........

It's Offered..........................;)
 

tigerhack

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Tiger, what color are the wires hooked to your distributor? Is the amplifier (aka ignition module) mounted on the distributor or the port exhaust manifold.

Sorry Don ,when i had get the boat i get it all pull to peices, and i have rigged the new engine in it whoever the new distributor only have a b+ and a tach connection , i was only asking if this would aid me in any form of way(ignition amplifier) .
 

tigerhack

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Re: ignition amplifier.

Ayuh,......
And That's Why We're here........To Help you......

The concept here, As I Understand it,.... Is,.....
You ask a Question,.....And somebody, Possibly more knowledgeable, will Answer....
But that Question has to be asked in a somewhat understandable common english using terms that can be identified,(reasonable spelling,+ punctuation is a Plus too) explaining exactly What is Wrong with your boat.....

When asked What a component Is,.... You might have to Go Look or somehow otherwise Identify it.......

Even though We all know that Don has a Crystal Ball,..........
The rest of Us regular posters here Don't.............

Sooooooooooo,................

If you want to back track,.....
And Identify all those Answers to all the Questions asked of you Above,..................
We'll be Glad to Help you learn what the components Are,+ How they Work..........

Btw,.................
If I owe you an apology for poking fun at you above,.........

It's Offered..........................;)

I Am A Don Gorgon Jamaican Memba dat .....:)
 
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