Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

JASinIL2006

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I'm normally a pretty handy guy, and buying a boat has pushed me to try my hand at a number of new types of projects.

The worst by far, though, has been installing a second bilge pump, with float switch, in my little bowrider. Following an idea I read about here, I epoxied both the pump and float switch to a piece of lucite, and my plan was to then epoxy the whole assembly to the floor of the bilge.

Drilling the hole in the hull for the outlet wasn't too bad (although anytime I do anything to the hull, even above the waterline, I get a bit nervous...). I used a Forstner bit and the resulting hole and installation of the outlet fitting looks very nice.

I did not, however, count on it being such a pain to get the pump assembly into the bilge. No matter how I try, the closest I can get to actually touching the bilge floor with my hand is about 4" away! Even then, I had to remove a bunch of stuff from the storage area next to the bilge and contort my tall self into a pretzel. I eventually fashioned a mop of sorts from a rag duct-taped to a 2x2, allowing me to clean the floor with some acetone. (Yes, I ran the bilge blower - and a box fan - so I didn't breathe too many fumes.)

After I figured out how I could get the pump assembly past the assorted pullies, wires, hoses, etc., and into the bilge, I mixed up some epoxy and used a spatula purloined from our kitchen to get the stuff into the bilge. I used the outlet hose (already connected to the pump, in a rare lucid moment for me) and the wires to suspend the pump assembly over the puddle of epoxy, and then slowly lowered it into the stuff. Hopefully, I hit the puddle squarely and the pump is in the right spot.

That it was 92 degrees and humid last night when I was doing this didn't help, either. Tonight I connect the outlet hose to the outlet fitting and I'll hopefully be done with this.

I'm hoping this is my last excursion into the bilge for a while. What a pain? How do others access their bilge without entertaining thoughts of transom removal! Heaven help me if this thing doesn't stay epoxied to the floor. I must just have to sell the dang boat! ;)
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

I usually get a chainsaw and cut the transom and perform the work needed. When done I dig deep in my storage shed and get my duck tape and re-attach the transom. :D

Next time out on the water I pray a lot...........
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

How do others access their bilge without entertaining thoughts of transom removal!

There's always the option of moving/removing the engine. That's what was really in your way anyway, right? Would you have had easier access if you'd removed a portion of the engine e.g. exhaust manifold or belt-driven accessories? Now's the time to think about it before you have to service the bilge pump.

Have you tried running the bilge pump yet to make sure it works and there aren't any leaks?

BTW, I can reach most of my bilge without removing any parts.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

Yup, remove the engine . . . actually when I had my engine out of the boat over the winter is the only time that I have been able to touch the bottom of the bilge . . .

Here is a mini pump that I put in while the engine was out. Now that the engine is back in the boat, I cannot even see the thing.
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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

Have you tried running the bilge pump yet to make sure it works and there aren't any leaks?

Actually, yes. That much I figured out!

I didn't think about dismantling or pulling the engine... I'm not THAT handy...
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

I can access the floor of the bilge in the front, but anything from the oil pan back is no-man's land, lol. I just installed a secondary bilge pump w/float as well, and couldn't get it screwed into the floor without using a 90-degree electric screwdriver.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

When either of these pumps give out, I'm going to hire some skinny, bendy teenager to get in there for me, or I'm going to sell the boat!
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

yeah...back engine area is a pretzel nightmare.

I would think the best bet for me would be to pull one of my batteries out....lay down a boat cushion or two....and JUMP IN!!! For real... i think that would be my best bet is to lay my upper body in there! legs danglin up and out! Would need everything in the boat for me...or an assistant! "...screwdriver, STAT!" lol
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

How do others access their bilge without entertaining thoughts of transom removal!

Jetboat is an open bilge. Glastron has an inline 6 in a bilge that was also meant to accommodate a V8. No problems here ;)
 

JASinIL2006

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

yeah...back engine area is a pretzel nightmare.

I would think the best bet for me would be to pull one of my batteries out....lay down a boat cushion or two....and JUMP IN!!! For real... i think that would be my best bet is to lay my upper body in there! legs danglin up and out! Would need everything in the boat for me...or an assistant! "...screwdriver, STAT!" lol

That's pretty much what I did... I pulled the battery and case, and I kneeled alongside the trim pump and tried to bend around and reach under the pullies into the bilge. I'm 6-3 and about 220, so it was a tight squeeze. I kept thinking, "if I get stuck out here, will anyone in the family notice I'm missing and come looking for me?"
 
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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

I kept thinking, "if I get stuck out here, will anyone in the family notice I'm missing and come looking for me?"
Only when they brought in a potential buyer for your boat!

That's why I love my boat. I twist off a cap in the splash well and can pull out my bilge in about 20 seconds. Sounds like you found a way to get it done.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

After I figured out how I could get the pump assembly past the assorted pullies, wires, hoses, etc., and into the bilge, I mixed up some epoxy and used a spatula purloined from our kitchen to get the stuff into the bilge. I used the outlet hose (already connected to the pump, in a rare lucid moment for me) and the wires to suspend the pump assembly over the puddle of epoxy, and then slowly lowered it into the stuff. Hopefully, I hit the puddle squarely and the pump is in the right spot.

I had to look this up!!

purloined - definition of purloined by the Free Online Dictionary ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/purloined
pur?loin (p r-loin , p?r loin ). v. pur?loined, pur?loin?ing, pur?loins. v.tr. To steal, often in a violation of trust. See Synonyms at steal. v.intr. To commit theft.

Well done sir!!
 

JASinIL2006

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

I had to look this up!!

purloined - definition of purloined by the Free Online Dictionary ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/purloined
pur?loin (p r-loin , p?r loin ). v. pur?loined, pur?loin?ing, pur?loins. v.tr. To steal, often in a violation of trust. See Synonyms at steal. v.intr. To commit theft.

Well done sir!!

Sadly, I got busted tonight. I left the epoxy-coated spatula out in the garage last night to let it harden. My wife saw it tonight and was none too happy.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

Sadly, I got busted tonight. I left the epoxy-coated spatula out in the garage last night to let it harden. My wife saw it tonight and was none too happy.

I guess you will be headed off to "Spatula City" to buy a new one . . . might as well get one for yourself while you are there.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

I had to look this up!!

purloined - definition of purloined by the Free Online Dictionary ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/purloined
pur?loin (p r-loin , p?r loin ). v. pur?loined, pur?loin?ing, pur?loins. v.tr. To steal, often in a violation of trust. See Synonyms at steal. v.intr. To commit theft.

Well done sir!!


I think you two underestimate the situation. It sounds to me that the sacrifice of the spatula for a higher cause was clearly called for. For some reason Dad had a thing for Mom's turkey basters. Found two on the boat after he passed away. We may never how many gave their lives.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

I guess you will be headed off to "Spatula City" to buy a new one . . . might as well get one for yourself while you are there.

Spatulas are easier to clean after it hardens. Flex and bend it a few times and it will flake off.
 

JASinIL2006

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

Even if if flakes off, I'm not sure that spatula will be allowed back in the kitchen. It is now a boat accessory.
 

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Re: Installing backup bilge pump... ugh!

Spatulas are one of the reasons I stay out of the Kitchen, they are deadly in the hands of a PO'd Spanish Cook!!


Your dad stole Turkey Basters??? Talk about a Thread taking a turn SOUTH!!
 
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