Interlux or Rust-Oleum

[Fishsher]

I am repainting my Reinell soon. I went to Lowes today and found some Rust-Oleum topside paint for $12 a quart including the primer. I was originally going to get Interlux paints, but the $ looks like it will be way to much. I have done alot to the boat. Such as a new engine to put in that was $2,400. and I had to put new stringers and transom in with the floor. That was another $800. As you can see I have had it hard for the last past few months, but now its time to paint. Has anyone had any luck with rust-oleum? I just don't know. Any help would greatly help me.

 

[tradin]

Re: Interlux or Rust-Oleum

you have spent all that money to fix the boat why would you cheap out now interlux paint is far better than anything else period i just did mine with it and it looks brand new

 

[DJ]

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Fishsher,<br /><br />I think you would be very disappointed. I would seriously resist the urge to use the less expensive product.<br /><br />I had originally painted the trailer on my "project boat" with Rust Oleum. See before and after pic's-here: <br /> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/djohns19/djohns19/ <br /><br />One trip to the lake and there where rock chips all over the fronts of the fenfers. <br /><br />I put on a coat of Interlux, Brightside (one part epoxy) and it is as hard as a rock. Several trips since, not one chip-same road. Not to mention, it shines much better.<br /><br />BTW, I painted the boat with the same Interlux paint and it has held up beautifully.

 

[Fishsher]

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djohns,<br /><br />Did you use topside Rust-Oleum paint for your trailer? The rust oleum is an alkoyd oil based topside paint. I have heard that polyurethane paint hates the sun. Also, one of the rust oleum paint cans at lowes has some paint that leaked down the side. I pushed in the can and that paint flexed very good, and I couldn't scrape it off with car keys.

 

[DJ]

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Fishsher,<br /><br />Yes, that was what I used. I couldn't believe how easily it flaked off.<br /><br />The polyurethane's do have UV protectors. The only words of caution are if you leave the boat in the water for extended periods of 72 hours or more. In that case, they recommend a bottom paint for below the waterline.<br /><br />Another beauty of the Brightside is it's ability to "flow out". I brushed mine, most people that look at it can't believe it.

 

[jamiewashere256]

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Interlux definatley. I just did mine looks great. One thing though..Use the roll and tip method,and cut the paint 5% with Interlux brushing liquid, and have a helper to catch any runs you may have. The first time I used Iterlux, I did the topside by my self and thought it looked great until I finished my way around the boat to find tons of sags. Very frustrating. Get yourself one of those little 3" yellow foam rollers, the kind with the rounded end, and a nice angle tip paint brush i.e. Purdy I used a 3" and fond it to be very comfortable. Usually where you find interlux you will find thier painting guide,very helpful. E-mail me if you want some more tips. I just finished a 19' Bayliner and learned many lessons I would be happy to share.

 

[flashback]

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hey WS, that bayliner dosn't have a 350 with thru hull exhaust does it?

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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would the topsides paint from interlux be what you would want to use on the trailer too then? <br /><br />of course, if its THAT expensive, I can live with a few dings on the trailer, lol<br /><br />also, aluminum paints need a special primer right? some sort of zinc chromate paint? would rustoleum brand be good for that, and use the interlux for a top coat? My old man keeps insisting that Red Lead is the best, I told him lead was outlawed YEARS ago, and he said there is some in the basement, lol, he was a painting contractor Back In The Day, and never let go of ANYTHING, there is even a gallon of Thunderbird Silver Blue down there, must be 40 years old (car paint for a Thunderbird, dont know the brand, cant remember it)<br /><br />Hey ...<br /><br />wait a minute!<br /><br />(I HATE when my mind does this)<br /><br />if you prepped an aluminum hull, did the zinc chromate thing, washed it all down with vinegar and water, etc etc, then took it to say MAACO, wouldnt a baked on car paint look wonderful? all those guys do ALL DAY is spray cars, Im sure they would do a good job spraying the hull out, just a matter of getting the hull prepped correctly<br /><br />this a good idea or what?<br /><br />they prolly wouldnt charge a ton either if you asked for a stock color, say Polar White or Triple White<br /><br />Hmmmmm ....

 

[jamiewashere256]

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Flashback, I WISH! It has an OMC Cobra 2.3

 

[snapperbait]

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I've used the interlux brightside poly, some rather expensive interlux two part which I cannot remember the name but it was extreemly foul stuff that kicked off way too fast and ruined my spray gun, and regular gallons of plain old rustoleum (not marine topside either)...<br /><br />Honestly, none of them are very good... I've found that both the interlux brightside and the rustoleum are both soft and easy to chip... <br /><br /> The one other thing I noticed about the interlux while painting a boat for a friend is that if you need to repair a spot like a run, drip, or bug flew into wet paint it's very difficult to get the repair to match and when sanding the area to repair, interlux gums up the sandpaper... Forgit buffing the area out too.. Just made the paint dull... Maybe we just got hold of some old bad paint or something, I dunno... Would I use interlux again? Probably not...<br /><br />Rustoleum has its drawbacks too... It does'nt adhere well in some cases... You must be very thuro with your sanding for the paint to stick OK... It does have an upside tho.. Rustoleum can be wet sanded and buffed out with a machine to a glass like smooth and shiney surface...<br /><br />I just painted my 21 footer with plain old rustoleum along with several other boats.... My 15 footer I painted with rustoleum 5 years ago knowing it was just going to get beat up anyway, and if I had taken care of it (like I should) it would still look like new, just with a few scratches...

 

[DJ]

Re: Interlux or Rust-Oleum

Ray,<br /><br />Sure, you can have someone spray it. Automotive paints will not hold up well if you leave the boat in the water for extended periods. Been there, done that, didn't even get the t-shirt. <br /><br />The prep work is the most important. It sounds like you have that part figured out.<br /><br />My experience with Brightside and similar products from Pettit have been nothing but good. You have to follow the instructions PRECISELY. Only use their brand of thinners, etc.<br /><br />Yes, the paint takes a long time to dry. So, an area that can be kept free of bugs, etc is necessary, for at leat 2-3 hours. They dry as hard as a rock and the do not take buffing well. You really don't need to buff, the shine is spectacular.

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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Hi djohns<br />since the boat basically will be on a trailer patiently awaiting water, that whole continuous immersion thing isnt really a problem. Just seems to me that someone that spends ALL DAY spraying spraying spraying is going to have his/her sh!t together and wont make the dripping sagging (and maybe orange peeling from too much build up, dunno if thats an issie, I know anything lacquer gets the peel no matter what)<br /> but what I do know is that when you get an el cheapo earl shieb / Maaco 199.99 paint job (remember 29.99, any car, any color! Sure, no sanding, barely masked and sprayed woo hoo) you get minimal prep, and prep is what makes the job. if I remember correctly, you did blocking to find the dips and all that, and thats perhaps overkill, but it makes for a beautiful job ... and those guys can certainly do a better job on the last coat than I can!<br />Given the prospect of maybe a three day stay on the water as a max, the rest, and likely, all ...<br /> of the time a few hours in the drink, then back on the trailer and wash down time, wouldnt the car paint be as shiny and durable as the brightsides paint?

 

[jamiewashere256]

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With brightside, You MUST WET SAND. Just ge t a spray bottle and some 320 grit if you need to sand something out. As far as fixing runs, Just take a little brushing liquid while the paint is still tacky with a brush and smooth it out. There is a liitle technique involved but its not that hard. I don't reccomend that you spray it either, roll and tip method is best, with a helper.

 

[DJ]

Re: Interlux or Rust-Oleum

Ray,<br /><br />Your theory is fine. A day or two in the water won't hurt.<br /><br />I would do all the prep work though. I don't trust those guys to do that part right. The actual spraying, I have no issue.

 

[outrigger]

Re: Interlux or Rust-Oleum

This is what the Interlux brightside looks like when its done. The first coat was rolled with a foam roller the the white ones not the yellow they come apart in about 5 min. The second coat was sprayed. The photo gallery at the fishing works page at the bottom..

 

[DJ]

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outrigger,<br /><br />VERY NICE!!<br /><br />I rest my case.

 

[gewf631]

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A question for those of you who've painted (especially with any of the Interlux paints)...<br /><br />How much did you use? A quart, a gallon?<br /><br />I'm going to paint my 18' Starcraft, and at the price, don't want too much paint!<br /><br />Also, asking for opinions...<br />The boat is from the late 70's. The paint is all there, but it's rough. Obviously, I'll sand it smooth, but since adhesion isn't an issue, do I need to strip and prime, or can I just scuff up the paint, clean, and paint?<br /><br />Thanks!

 

[tradin]

Re: Interlux or Rust-Oleum

2 quarts i did a 16 ft and used 1 full and then about another half a quart that was 3 coats on top and 2 on the sides but i did the bottom with antifoul paint so i guess buy 3 then return 1 if you dont need it

 

[timothyl]

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djohns19, saw the pics of your boat and it looks great. My question is how did you get the inside to look so great?<br /> My Seafair Seadan is covered with a hideous red outdoor carpet. I am trying to figure out how to get it off the overhead of the cabin, as well as everyplace else, without destroying the boat. <br /> This is my project this winter and I would love to have my boat look as good as yours.