Intermediate Shaft Play

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Hello, I just bought a Volvo 280 Stern Drive and it is supposed to be rebuilt. On the end where the bellhousing is that goes to the motor, there is shaft play from side to side when I move it with my hand. When I spin it, I cannot tell if it is moving side to side, but when I move it with my hand left to right, there is alot of play and it moves easily. Is this supposed to be like this? Or is the bearing bad? If so, would both be bad inside and out, or which one should be changed if bad. Thanks
 
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You may have to check it the way the pro's do it.
Disassemble and inspect. You could have either more or less problems than what you think.

Guessing just doesn't cut it.
 
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That may be the best thing to change them both. Really dont want to take it apart, but you are right, and hoping that wont be my only option. Do the bearing supposed to make a noise when the shaft is turned by hand? Sort like a scrubbing noise, and not so much of a grinding one?
 
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Do the bearing supposed to make a noise when the shaft is turned by hand?
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NO! You shouldn't hear or feel them when turning by hand.

You have to take things apart to fix it, so why not take it apart, find out what is bad, and replace those parts. Or do you just like to throw parts and money at it and hope for the best ???????
 
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Thanks. Don, cause the upper and lower gearbox has been rebuilt, I just don't think that the bearing have been changed. Im going to take my old one out tomorrow and match things up and see how things look. It wont hurt at all to change them out and should be fairly easy with it already out. to my understanding, there should be no noise at all in no kind of way when turned by hand right? Just want to make sure of it when I install them if I did it right. First time and dont want to be messing nothing up, as I dont plan on going back in this for a while.
 
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What's the model number and year of your engine? That is how you determine which flywheel cover you have, not by the drive type.
 
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Don S said:
What's the model number and year of your engine? That is how you determine which flywheel cover you have, not by the drive type.
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From an earlier thread, he mentioned having an '88 boat with a 350 and 280 outdrive. I'm thinking an AQ260.
 
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From an earlier thread, he mentioned having an '88 boat with a 350 and 280 outdrive. I'm thinking an AQ260.
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My god, please dont say that, cause I just bought a early model Volvo penta 280 stern drive, and it has the single exhaust. I was trying to swap the two out until I noticed that the exhaust was a single and mine was dual. Also, my propeller is bigger. I have the PN# from both drives. I was told on here that I had a 280 outdrive. The PN# on the one to remove is PN# 867900 8624 . And the one that I just bought which is the earlier model is PN# 839437 7717 . I dont know much about boats but im trying to learn. Please dont tell me I bought the wrong drive. :confused:
 
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Now I'm confused.

Sorry I said what I said, What did I say??

It sounds like your leaving out a lot of details.
 
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Just tell me what you need and I will be glad to post it for you. I bought this drive from a guy and it is a 280 drive that has been rebuilt. He sold it to me with the stern plate, bellhousing, and trim, still attached. The drive is a older 280, and right on the side of the bellhousing is a exhaust hose setup for a single exhaust, and mine is dual. I was planning to remove the bellhousing, stern plate and trim, and hook this up through the ujoint, leaving my old bellhousing attached to the engine. If I need to change the bearing on the intermediate shaft on both ends, this should be achievable this way right? What should I do? Not worried about speed, just trying to make it back in the water and have it be reliable. Thanks
 
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At the beginning of your thread you should be stating the year model and any other details regarding your drivetrain so that you can receive the correct info. Or you can add that info in your signature like mine is below this post. You and I have practically the same drivetrain, that is if we are still talking about your 88 Baretta.:)


Whats wrong with the old transom shield? The original has the two Idle relief ports you need right? Can you confirm that the Outdrive you purchased is the correct gear ratio?
 
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captmello said:
At the beginning of your thread you should be stating the year model and any other details regarding your drivetrain so that you can receive the correct info. Or you can add that info in your signature like mine is below this post. You and I have practically the same drivetrain, that is if we are still talking about your 88 Baretta.:)


Whats wrong with the old transom shield? The original has the two Idle relief ports you need right? Can you confirm that the Outdrive you purchased is the correct gear ratio?
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There is nothing wrong with the old transom shield, I just felt that it would be more easy to install everything with the bellhousing still attached, more like plug and play. Yes I am talking about the 88 Baretta Super Sport, sorry I didn't mention that in the beginning. I noticed that we have the same boat, but mine is a Super Sport. So you say that I have the 260 drive and not the 280 everybody here is telling me? If so, can they still be interchanged out with the upper gear box, lower, and u-joint ?
 
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Yes, you do have a 280 outdrive.
AQ260 is an engine model name. ;)

The AQ260 is a 260hp GM 350 with a Qjet Carb.

It sounds like you can just use the transom shield you have. You need to pull the engine and fix the flywheel cover bearings, regardless.

You can get the engine out in less than an hour.:)
 
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Trying to avoid removing the engine. Is there can swap these out without removing the engine? It seems to remove the old exhaust setup on the other drive, that I have to go inside it, as I will have to in order to use my y-pipe from my exhaust. If this can be done, will I have to purchase new seals or gaskets of any kind?
 
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If you're using your existing transom shield, and your existing Y pipe is good, then you will not have to touch the exhaust besides separating it at the big rubber hoses on the risers. Just pull the engine with the existing flywheel cover still attached, remove the flywheel cover from the engine, and inspect the bearings and shaft.

Once you determine what is bad, besides the bearings, you cn decide whether to reuse the original flywheel cover or us the one you just bought.

First. Can you confirm that you have the correct gear ratio in your new outdrive?
 
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The gear ratio may be different, I cannot confirm that they are the same given the different year models of the drives. Both are 280 though. I doubt that they are the same. What is going to make the differ, the flywheel? If the difference is going to be the speed the boat can travel pertaining to gear ratio's, then Im not worried about that, just want to get into the water. The exhaust setup is not the same, I cannot see where the y- pipe is connected, but on the other drive I can see a pipe where the rubber hose was cut off and was curious if it would hook up where the y pipe is disconected and not have any issues. I going to post a pic of the new drive
 
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Here are some pics of the older drive that has been rebuilt.
 

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