Irresponsible Parents!

[orion25]

Re: Irresponsible Parents!

the comparison was simply that other people are always willing to tell you how they think you should live your life and raise your kids or mow your lawn or.....

common sense, that's easy a very overloaded jeep traveling at highway speeds is the epitome of what not to do if you have common sense. Jeep is rated for 5K boat weighs 4600 yeah lots of lee way there for fuel, water, gear, people, etc. not even close. Had you rolled the jeep and the state boys weighed you, you would have been overloaded and at fault.
Don't know about Ala but in Wis drivers assume full responsibiliy for children on roads. Another words kids are very unpredictable and you need to watch for them at all times. If you hit one regardless of the situation you are at fault.
Her riding was definitely dangerous. I myself probably would have stopped and talked to her first and probably her parents. You on the other hand chose to go back for a second round just to inform them you may still pursue this legally? Because of their fear of a lawsuit or charges because of you she loses the quad. How did you help? You did not help her ride safely, you did not help them parent more responsibly. You simply judged their life style and complained until they gave in and sold the quad. No help what so ever.
Not meaning to slam just telling you my honest opinion. As I said I have talked to people about their riding, even tore into one parent (he had brand new gear head to foot while he allowed his 5ish yr old son to ride in shorts w/o even a helmet). Your contniued reference to what could have happened to you seems to be your true concern, truth told (this is an assumption) if you got the Jeep with that trailer stopped without crashing you had plenty of time. Had it been a panic stop it would have pushed you off the road or at least into a jack knife.
Granted I don't have a ton of experience towing, only pulling snowmobiles, boat, atvs, 26 foot camper, and every now and then a 40' flat bed with a Peterbilt tractor. Going more then 80% of your towing capacity of any vehicle is generally speaking overloaded.
Luckily no one was hurt. Unfortunately she loses the quad instead of getting proper training.

There was no boat on the trailer. Pretty sure I stated that earlier. 4600 is the weight of the loaded boat/trailer combo as well. Includes full tank and all the crap I keep on it. Brakes on all 4 corners have been upgraded to help with the load as well.

Below is a cut and paste of what I put in an earlier post. The conversation in question took less than 2 minutes and was very cordial. I never threatened any kind of legal action to the parents.

"If you are wondering, I have stopped by the house and I spoke with both of the parents. I explained that they live less than 5 miles from a marina and many people are towing heavy boats on their road. I also explained the horror I felt when I thought that I may be responsible for a child's death. I was very graphic on this point. The parents were a little taken back and promised me that this would not happen again. I said that I hope not because the outcome may not be as good in the future. I thanked them for their time and went on my way."

By the way, basically you are telling me how I should live my life. You did the same with other ATV riders parents. How about reading what I have written before you make your assumptions.

 

[SgtMaj]

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I'm glad no one died from your second confrontation... but from your response, even if you had killed them before they killed you, your life would still be over as far as anyone is concerned. Here's the facts that the court would see, you brought a gun onto their property to confront them, and then shot them... yeah... you'd spend AT LEAST 25 to life behind bars for that one... doesn't matter if at the point of exchange that you were trying to defend yourself... the court won't even believe you about that. Was it really even worth the risk of that happening just to tell them again what they already knew?

Anyway, glad it didn't come to that... and hopefully now you'll let it go for good.

 

[orion25]

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I'm glad no one died from your second confrontation... but from your response, even if you had killed them before they killed you, your life would still be over as far as anyone is concerned. Here's the facts that the court would see, you brought a gun onto their property to confront them, and then shot them... yeah... you'd spend AT LEAST 25 to life behind bars for that one... doesn't matter if at the point of exchange that you were trying to defend yourself... the court won't even believe you about that. Was it really even worth the risk of that happening just to tell them again what they already knew?

Anyway, glad it didn't come to that... and hopefully now you'll let it go for good.

Nope, I did not bring a gun along to confront them. Hell, I did not "confront" any one. I carry a gun in my vehicle at all times. I work at night so I am on the road when the crazies are out and about! A man was shot at the place I work at just last week. Oh yeah, this is Alabama. We have a self defense clause here. If you are protecting your property or life then you are good to go.

And yes I have let it go because I now realize that almost everyone can justify the actions of those "parents". It truly hurts me to realize that there are people out there that think I am wrong because I wanted to see a young girl live a full life....................................

 

[avenger79]

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as i said earlier it's just my opinion of what you did. I'm not telling you how to live, just saying what I thought.

As far as my "helping others on atvs" I give them information. I don't say look what could have happened to me with your actions. If it's (usually) young guys doing wheelies on the road, I tell them what the fine would be. I don't call the law.
As far as help with gear when I talk to people about it, I usually have extra gear with me and give it to them. All I ask is that they wear it. I have given away 5 helmets in the last 3 years. You see when I stop I help the situation.
BTW you would not be defending yourself if you are on his property with a gun in your vehicle. He would be defending his.

 

[stevenw00]

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Dang y'all sure know how to assume a lot of crap. Half of what is said in the last page of this thread is assumption BS. Just get over it and move on! Sound like a bunch of dang 3rd graders... "No, I didn't..." "Yes, you did! You did this..." "No, I said that... read it again."

 

[orion25]

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as i said earlier it's just my opinion of what you did. I'm not telling you how to live, just saying what I thought.

As far as my "helping others on atvs" I give them information. I don't say look what could have happened to me with your actions. If it's (usually) young guys doing wheelies on the road, I tell them what the fine would be. I don't call the law.
As far as help with gear when I talk to people about it, I usually have extra gear with me and give it to them. All I ask is that they wear it. I have given away 5 helmets in the last 3 years. You see when I stop I help the situation.
BTW you would not be defending yourself if you are on his property with a gun in your vehicle. He would be defending his.

Well, you are obviously the better person in this world. I am done with this thread. Probably going to nuke it if I can............... You cannot read and I am tired of this.