Is boring one side of my V6 ok?

Old Man

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86 Johnny 150 VRO had one side of engine bored 30 over and replaced with 3 new pistons at 300 hours. now @ 650 hours, on a ride in at cruising speed, engine stalled, but reatarted and i limped in at idle. one of the replaced pistons had craters in it pretty bad and the 2 others started showing problems, all on the side that was replaced/bored etc. The original pistons were in great condition. My Mech is gonna Bore to 40 or 45 over and replace the 3 pistons,rebuild carbs etc. He said a few different things could have caused it, Im not in question of that right now, but my concern is that is it ok to bore and rebuild one side of this V6 engine? The first rebuild was done by a different mech by prev owner. So im supposing this is ok considering my mech has a great rep and is an old school mech of 40+ years with vast experience in this style engine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
 

surlyjoe

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Re: Is boring one side of my V6 ok?

well generally you want the engine balanced, not only in weight but also displacement and compression.<br /><br /> assuming he knows and can achieve this , I can't think of why you cant just do one bank.
 

OBJ

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Re: Is boring one side of my V6 ok?

If it was me, I'd sure want to know why the same side went south again.....even after 650hrs. Won't hurt to bore one side and not the other. And I sure would look close at the original side and make sure the cylinders are still with in specs as far as bore size is concerned.
 

jy118lfd

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Re: Is boring one side of my V6 ok?

It is done all the time in two strokes. All the oversize pistons are matched to the std pistons. Make sure you go thru the carbs and do a water pump.when you get it back together check in here with the setup. I bet wot top rpm was under 5400. Was it the starboard side? Also have him check the 3 he is not going to bore for out of roundness. Someone else can give you a spec (Dhadley)?? They are great motors and should go a few thousand hours if setup correctly. Keep posting and you will get lots of help here :)
 

jy118lfd

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Re: Is boring one side of my V6 ok?

Obj how do you type so fast :p
 

Dhadley

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Re: Is boring one side of my V6 ok?

Jon and OBJ are right (as usual), your plan is OK about the boring. IF the standard side is within spec. I'd bet it's not. Think about it -- it's been run, then honed once and run again. And who knows how far they honed it?? Even though it wasnt the side hurt, it will see some unusual strain during the 2 failures. Even if it's within spec I'd bet it's at max now.<br /><br />To bore or not to bore -- that is not the question. Thats easy -- the measurements will answer that question. And it's perfectly OK to run 3 standards and 3 .044's (they're not .045's -- I know that's odd but there's a perfectly legitimate reason for that)<br /><br />Anyway, the real question becomes, what really happened and what caused it? Scored pistons and cylinder walls are a result -- not a cause. <br /><br />Here's a guideline to keep in mind -- on your motor the fuel delivery is across, 1&2, 3&4, 5&6. The ignition is side to side. <br /><br />I'd sure want to know what the cause was before I threw pistons at it. I know there's a lot that can't be checked unless it's running but I wouldn't accept it back simply "rebuilt". I'd want them to find and correct the cause.<br /><br />You're not alone. Not finding the cause of an issue is the single biggest cause of repeat failures on outboards. By far.<br /><br />It could be as simple as running too hot a spark plug. Or the wrong fuel. <br /><br />I know this is a lot to digest and youre probably a bit stressed (I would be) but there's one more thing we see all the time -- The motor was rebuilt once. Lets assume that the other side is within specs but at or towards the max tolerances. The bored side will be at "new" tolerances (clearances). When the motor is back running, which side is doing the most work? The bored side. The "nearly wore out" side is very lazy and not producing it's fair share of torque. You still expect the motor to push the boat at the same speed, cruise or wide open. Understandable. But that puts a real strain on the "fresh" side. <br /><br />Keep us posted with your progress.
 
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