is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

5150abf

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What is the correct name for the side of a boat, I have heard both Gunnel and Gunwall.

I would imagine it is gunwall as most terms nautical are military based.

I know Port and Starboard are from the vikings(military)there boat had a rudder called a starbard on the right side of the boat so the would have to come into port on the left side hence port and starboard.

Just wondering.
 

HappierWet

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

It is spelled Gunwale and pronounced Gunnel ;)
 

SeanT

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

I have young kids and I've been pronouncing it "gun-wall". But it doesn't work, because little boys being the way they are, as soon as they hear the word "gun" their brain just shuts off. Gunnel it is!
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

Yeah, and it's not the side . . . it's "the upper edge of the side of a boat" from the link above ^^^^
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

A carry-over from sailing days...gunnel on a sailing craft is the toe-rail at the edge/side of the deck, typically the last thing you feel with your foot or grab for as you are heading for the drink. As puddle boaters, we refer to the sidewall above the deck as the gunnel.
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

I know Port and Starboard are from the vikings(military)there boat had a rudder called a starbard on the right side of the boat so the would have to come into port on the left side hence port and starboard.

That is close to the origin..

Starboard

Before ships had rudders on their centerlines, they were steered by use of a specialized steering oar. This oar was held by an oarsman located in the stern of the ship. However, like most of the rest of society, there were many more right-handed sailors than left-handed sailors. This meant that the steering oar used to be affixed to the right side of the ship. The word starboard comes from Old English steorbord, literally meaning the side on which the ship is steered, descendant from the Old Norse words st?ri meaning ?rudder? (from the verb st?ra, literally ?being at the helm?, ?having a hand in?) and bor? meaning etymologically ?board?, then the ?side of a ship?.

Similarly, the term for the left side of the boat, port or larboard, is derived from the practice of sailors mooring on the left side (i.e., the larboard or "loading side") as to prevent the steering boards from being crushed. Because the words larboard and starboard sounded too similar to be easily distinguished, larboard was changed to port.

Gunwale

Originally the gunwale was the "Gun ridge" on a sailing warship. This represented the strengthening wale or structural band added to the design of the ship, at and above the level of a gun deck. It was designed to accommodate the stresses imposed by the use of artillery.

In modern boats, it is the top edge of the side where there is usually some form of stiffening.
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

Ya lowkee, that is what I meant to say, I just am to lazy to type that much.

I caught that on the history channel and though it was pretty cool, I like learning the origins of common words, I use port and starboard all day at work but never knew where they came from.

Easy trick to help new guys learn the difference is PORT and LEFT are the same cause they both have four letters, almost everyone remembers after you tell them that.

Funny it has one spelling and another pronunciation too.
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

You have to talk with a proper pirate brogue to get it right. It's a GUNNEL. ARGH!
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

Uh, why don't they just call it the side of the boat? As a matter of fact why do we need a nautical term for everything on a boat when we have perfectly good english words that describe most that stuff anyway? Why not call port "left", how is that? Or the starboard side, lets try "right?" Bow's, gunwales and scuppers all just make us landlubbers crazy. :D
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

That's exactly why we use nautical terms, to drive landlubbers crazy. LOL,

It's the same reason doctors use medical terms and soldiers use military terms. Mostly it's tradition and history but also there are parts of boats that defy any landlubberly description, such as the the garboard strake, or a rabbet, a keel or a stem. But the terms that probably throw most people, including long time sailors, is floor and ceiling. A floor in a boat is not the deck, it is the vertical support under the deck, and ceiling is not over your head, it is the inner lining between the inside of the boat and the hull.

You stand on a deck which can be made up of floorboards, which are laid on the floors. Confusing enough?

for instance from a nautical dictionary: Overhead: The ceiling aboard ship, (Never "ceiling," which on a vessel refers to the interior planking or plates affixed to the ship's frames,)
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

Ya lowkee, that is what I meant to say, I just am to lazy to type that much.

Funny it has one spelling and another pronunciation too.

I take no credit for that. I paraphrased it from wikipedia and just added formatting for readability.

For the record, I call the gunwale a gunwale, not a gunnel. I just can't bring myself to mispronounce a word. People here in Charlotte, NC call a town named Lancaster, NC "lankister" (hard 'a') and a town named Concord, NC "concorde" (like the defunct airline) and I cringe every time I hear them (after I realized what they were talking about).
 

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Re: is it GUNNELL- GUNWALL ?

For the record, I call the gunwale a gunwale, not a gunnel. I just can't bring myself to mispronounce a word.

Do you also say WED-NES-DAY for the third day of the week?

There are many words for which the accepted pronunciation is not the same as the spelling would suggest.
 
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