is it worth it?

new boat guy

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hey i'm a new member here and want to do a boat restoration project. i have found a boat on craigslist its basically a hull but appears to be in good shape. no engine. i am calling the guy tomorrow to confirm that it floats. it is a 21' Stamas cuddy cabin 1976. according to his post there are no soft spots in the hull. nice high sides just the kind of hull i am looking for. the listed price is $500 OBO. i will try to get him to email me some pics so i can post them here. also i have a local friend who is knowledgeable about boats is a general boat mechanic who i can go to for help and a knowledgeable neighbor.
 

erikgreen

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Re: is it worth it?

I'll answer the question you didn't quite ask I think:

It's worth it to restore a boat if you A) have emotional attachment to a particular boat or B) You like doing the work as much as using the boat.

It's NOT worth it if you're trying to save money, or trying to get on the water fast.

The best way to start out picking a boat is not to get too fixated on any particular one you're looking at.

Look around, in this economy for $500 you should be able to find a boat that is functional, with engine, trailer, and hull, all the glass intact, interior not totally wrecked, etc.

At that price, though, you're going to get an older boat, or one that was catastrophically damaged. Expect and plan to remove and replace stringers, deck, and possibly the transom.

Don't take the seller's word for it that "it's good". Most sellers don't know jack about the condition of the boat, and have a heavy emotional investment and financial interest in believing it's in great shape and worth more than it is. Even if there's signs of rot, they won't look for it and won't see it if it's in front of their face... and they won't thank you for pointing it out.

Even when buying from a friend or relative, assume the condition of the boat is unknown even if you know they've taken decent care of it until you have it professionally inspected or, for cheaper boats, inspect it yourself. They may not deceive you intentionally, but they might deceive themselves.

Negotiate, don't be afraid to walk away and think about it, especially in this economy. It's a buyer's market and then some.

Make sure as part of the sale you get a title to the boat, and possibly a title to the trailer and engine (if your state titles outboards). Without this, don't put any money at all in the boat.

There are exceptions to all of this, of course.. but your odds of finding one are only slightly better than winning the $10k lottery. Everyone wants to believe they've found the one non-rotten classic boat at a bargain price that won't require a ton of work to use but which will be worth many $$ if shined up and cleaned. You won't, sorry.

After your restore you will have a boat that's exactly the way you want it, it'll be fun to use and look great, and you'll have a lot of pride in having done the work yourself.

It won't be a good investment... you'll never get your money back by selling it unless you're either very, very lucky or you manage to get one of the boats in high demand by collectors (like the old mahogany runabouts, eg.).

Erik
 

boat1010

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Re: is it worth it?

You can spend LOTS of money restoring it your self. AND you can make a picture look any way you want it to. I went from Nebraska to Arizona to buy a boat...LOL it looked nothing like the pictures. Just be careful and if you are doing this just because you need a project to keep ya busy, great. Have fun.
 

new boat guy

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Re: is it worth it?

okay after doing some reading on rotted floors ect i think i'm going to continue looking for a boat. maybe i'll go with a boston whaler. i like the hull on them
 

CheapboatKev

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Re: is it worth it?

Have you looked at the boat at all? You can check for rot before you buy her, if you read a lot of threads on here regarding rotten decks, you saw to take a core sample..I did see that the ad said solid deck (he said the F word but I dont dare say floor..dang I said floor..twice!)

It will take a lot of T&M to bring her back, but in the end the time, money & choice is yours...

It didnt have a trailer, theres another xpense..

You'll be hard pressed to find a B whaler for 500 bux tho!

And in case I forget my manners..WELCOME ABOARD
 

betayv

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Re: is it worth it?

hi there Look around, in this economy for $500 you should be able to find a boat that is functional, with engine, trailer, and hull, all the glass intact, interior not totally wrecked, etc.

where is that to go and get me another boat!!!:eek:
 

new boat guy

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Re: is it worth it?

i didn't see the thread on how to take a core sample. maybe someone can give me a link there? i think i'll go look at it and determine things from there. i can borrow a trailer for when i need to move it i have those boat jacks things i can use
 

BWR1953

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Re: is it worth it?

hi there Look around, in this economy for $500 you should be able to find a boat that is functional, with engine, trailer, and hull, all the glass intact, interior not totally wrecked, etc.

where is that to go and get me another boat!!!:eek:

There are several on craigslist right now in this area.
 

new boat guy

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Re: is it worth it?

what are some good things to check for when looking into buying a used boat?
 

Robert D

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Re: is it worth it?

Keep in mind....if you start next week on a restore. Sole, stringers, transom, and you want to do it right? Forget about being in the water this summer. Maybe 2010. BUT you will have spend many hours doing it right, and you won't be able to part with it for years. It'll serve you well, and you will know how everything on that boat works. Or, spend $5000 now, you're in the water this summer, and in the fall you start checking out the rotted sole. You might discover your and your familys safety was in jeopardy over the summer, as you find the stringers gone, and possibly the transom. You might put the same money into it you would have put into the $500 boat. In the end, you'll have the same thing. A boat that has cost you a bunch of money, that you have fixed, and that you know inside out. My advice is to find a hull that is cheap, that you know needs work, and a hull that will do what you need it to do. Family fishing with little ones on a lake? Go for the tri-hull. Water skiing? A nice V-hull with some power. At this point, when considering hulls, you need to pay closer attention to the condition of the motor. Inboard or outboard? Get a hull that needs work, but with a newer motor/drive if possible. If you want a cheap boat for this summer, and fix it in the fall-winter-spring, you better just assume it may be a safety hazard. Keep the life jackets on!
 

new boat guy

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Re: is it worth it?

okay thanks for the help. i've been looking for a boat that i can fish and ski in. i want the v-hull though
 
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