chriscraft254
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Re: Is this boat sea worthy...
High n dry, you say you don't want to argue,but then you do,lol Just because you have owned a boston whaler doesn't make other boats not sea worthy. I would take my I/O boat anywhere that you would with a boston whaler w/outboard and be much more comfortable doing it because the ride you get on a whaler IMO sucks. There are plenty of well maintained I/Os that run the ocean and great lakes without any issues if properly maintained. Your outboard if not properly maintained can have just as many issues,if not more if not maintained properly and at a much higher cost for replacement. Not to mention a well maintained inboard or I/O will usually ofer far more hours than a outboard will with some exceptions of coarse.
Foam filled, positive floatation, semi- floatation, extra floatation, closed cell, open cell, vacuum assisted foam, etc etc etc really have very little to do with sea worthyness imo. The OP was asking if his boat was seaworthy,not unsinkable. There is a huge difference!!! There are many boats that I don't consider sea worthy because of the construction from the factory. (old bayliners for example) I have literally seen one broken in half.
Your statements about I/O's is just your opinion. We get that you don't like I/O's and thats your choice. But that doesn't make other boats inferior or not sea worthy just because you are worried to death about bellows,lol I will take my full transom boat over your open stern anyday in rough conditions and feel much more comfortable knowing that the increased gunnel height will protect me and my crew. By the way, my I/O is self bailing, the only way for water to get to the bilge is through a hull breach or by getting swamped to the point that it would start taking water into the engine compartment. This is of coarse less of a risk because of the full transom. I even changed the self bailing thru-hulls from 3/4 inch to 1 1/8. Water gets out twice as fast now.
To comment on the anchoring, you don't have to be anchored from the stern to have waves come over the stern of a open/outboard boat and get swamped. Trust me, I know.
Seems like your the only one giving mis-information here. Bellows are like any other maintenance on a motor. People with I/Os understand that bellows have to be inspected and changed out when neeeded. The only boats that your going to see sink from bellows is those motors that were not maintained properly. Do you maintain your motor?
Now, if you want to make an arguement, if a outdrive hits something and it gets ripped of the back, the big hole it leave is going to make the boat sink quikly. More than likely, if you hit something that hard, your going down anyway. Also alot of people including me who have run the ocean or do run the ocean prefer not to have to worry about corrosion on an outdrive, of coarse an outboard can be raised all the way out of the water. But the outboards should still be flushed with fresh water every time. How many people do you know that do that??? Not many I'm guessing. These arguements hold water, but are still maintenance issues.
It all comes down to personal preferance and what you consider "sea Worthy". Unsinkable would be nice to have on all vessels but it is never going to happen because of the cost. I would love to own a Sea Hunter, but probably never will. So, instead, I will cover my bases having well maintained equipment, the right safety gear, a float plan, epirb, vhf's etc etc if going offshore or anywhere for that matter.
Food for thought. Boats have been made out of many building materials over the years, even concrete! The op's boat imo is sea worthy if all systems are working properly and maintained. How sea worthy might be a better question. Size and how the hull was built is the main consideration to me. Not how much foam it has! Again, even the unsinkable boston whalers can sink!
High n dry, you say you don't want to argue,but then you do,lol Just because you have owned a boston whaler doesn't make other boats not sea worthy. I would take my I/O boat anywhere that you would with a boston whaler w/outboard and be much more comfortable doing it because the ride you get on a whaler IMO sucks. There are plenty of well maintained I/Os that run the ocean and great lakes without any issues if properly maintained. Your outboard if not properly maintained can have just as many issues,if not more if not maintained properly and at a much higher cost for replacement. Not to mention a well maintained inboard or I/O will usually ofer far more hours than a outboard will with some exceptions of coarse.
Foam filled, positive floatation, semi- floatation, extra floatation, closed cell, open cell, vacuum assisted foam, etc etc etc really have very little to do with sea worthyness imo. The OP was asking if his boat was seaworthy,not unsinkable. There is a huge difference!!! There are many boats that I don't consider sea worthy because of the construction from the factory. (old bayliners for example) I have literally seen one broken in half.
Your statements about I/O's is just your opinion. We get that you don't like I/O's and thats your choice. But that doesn't make other boats inferior or not sea worthy just because you are worried to death about bellows,lol I will take my full transom boat over your open stern anyday in rough conditions and feel much more comfortable knowing that the increased gunnel height will protect me and my crew. By the way, my I/O is self bailing, the only way for water to get to the bilge is through a hull breach or by getting swamped to the point that it would start taking water into the engine compartment. This is of coarse less of a risk because of the full transom. I even changed the self bailing thru-hulls from 3/4 inch to 1 1/8. Water gets out twice as fast now.
To comment on the anchoring, you don't have to be anchored from the stern to have waves come over the stern of a open/outboard boat and get swamped. Trust me, I know.
Seems like your the only one giving mis-information here. Bellows are like any other maintenance on a motor. People with I/Os understand that bellows have to be inspected and changed out when neeeded. The only boats that your going to see sink from bellows is those motors that were not maintained properly. Do you maintain your motor?
Now, if you want to make an arguement, if a outdrive hits something and it gets ripped of the back, the big hole it leave is going to make the boat sink quikly. More than likely, if you hit something that hard, your going down anyway. Also alot of people including me who have run the ocean or do run the ocean prefer not to have to worry about corrosion on an outdrive, of coarse an outboard can be raised all the way out of the water. But the outboards should still be flushed with fresh water every time. How many people do you know that do that??? Not many I'm guessing. These arguements hold water, but are still maintenance issues.
It all comes down to personal preferance and what you consider "sea Worthy". Unsinkable would be nice to have on all vessels but it is never going to happen because of the cost. I would love to own a Sea Hunter, but probably never will. So, instead, I will cover my bases having well maintained equipment, the right safety gear, a float plan, epirb, vhf's etc etc if going offshore or anywhere for that matter.
Food for thought. Boats have been made out of many building materials over the years, even concrete! The op's boat imo is sea worthy if all systems are working properly and maintained. How sea worthy might be a better question. Size and how the hull was built is the main consideration to me. Not how much foam it has! Again, even the unsinkable boston whalers can sink!
