Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

[AUGIDAWG]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Some synthetic oils flow towards heat, or hot spots. Castor "bean" oils are good for that.

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Zee<br /><br />See I told you!<br /><br />By the way, WHO IS ROSS????<br /><br />LubeDude

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

BillP<br /><br />A bit touchy are we ?? <br /><br />So am I to understand that these things do not matter to you with your car or truck!!<br /><br />Better fuel economy: Proven<br />Cleaner running: Proven<br />Cooler running: Proven<br />25,000 miles between oil changes (Amsoil) Proven<br />Never have to change your oil if oil analisis is used and proper filtration: Proven<br />More horse power: Proven<br />Better protection at higher temps: Proven<br /><br />LubeDude<br /><br />Off subject, will transfer post if gets out of hand!

 

[AUGIDAWG]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Can you get "Blendzall" in a outboard form?<br />They make it for watercraft.<br /><br />I love that bean oil smell. Nothing like the smell of Blendzall in the morning. Smells like "VICTORY".<br /><br /> http://www.hometownmotocross.com/extreme/en-us/dept_34.html

 

[BillP]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Lubedude, you don't know that slogan? It's simply comic relief. <br /><br />Anyway, yes I care about those details but do I really need them? Do I need my motors to do anything different, not really. I got rid of the 2 stroke oil smoke problem by buying a 4 stroke (and won't buy another at this point). My motors already run cool and I definitely don't want them to run cooler. I always run at 75% or less power so don't need more hp...is it even measurable in anything other than racing ETs? Fuel burn is a consideration but at the bottom of my list. How much is the range going to increase? Longer wear life is nice but my motors have never worn out and I put more hrs on them than most folks. Am I 100% satisfied with the systems I use, yes. <br /><br />I want to see real evidence of 25k mile oil changes. Every mechanic I've talked to says the oil still gets dirty and not to wait that long. Where are the unbiased lab tests backing up the claims?

 

[walleyehed]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

If there is a way to politely say "25,000 miles between changes is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of, as no matter how good your oil is, you still have to remove the polutants, and you would have zero common sense and deffinitly no understanding of whats going on inside that engine." I would, but I can't....thats not an item that shows you take care of your equipment, it's a selling tool to say, "see, it didn't blow-up!" Oil filters bypass on average around 1500 miles on modern vehichles, with average driving conditions.......I don't want to run 23,500 miles with no filtration. Even if you change it every 5000 miles, it just doesn't work that way.........

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

OK, I guess the chemists at Amsoil just are a bunch of idiots that just want everyones vehicles to blow up so they can buy new ones, maybe they own a lot of stock in the automotive markets!!<br /><br />Truth is they make the best lubricants in the world!!<br /><br />Just because you do not understand something does not give you the right to say that it is not right!! The filters (depth type) are still replaced at regular intervals! If you want the truth as to how it works you can go to the site and look yourself, But I doubt that you would ever do such a thing!! I will not take the time to try and get a few people out there to understand! Seems like you have your minds made up pretty good! I will admit that it sounds crazy, just like 100:1 mix ratios! Fact is that it works and works very very well!<br /><br />Are you wrong, No, not really, just ignorant of the facts!!<br /><br />LubeDude

 

[walleyehed]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

LubeDude, don't know where you are coming from, but for the love of God, lay off! I am an aircraft mechanic, and I SPECIALIZE in JET engines. TRUE TURBINES, spinning 41,000RPM...I spent countless hours on oil tests, progressive inspections, and perfection in the truest form. I have no margin for error, as it would KILL people. I'm here to tell you right here and now that if you DO NOT understand the reason to change oil, which you have "PROVEN", take the fight elsewhere-it's very apparent you have no understanding of the corrosive vapors that form in your engine that you HAVE to get rid of on a timely basis...THE OIL TYPE IS NOT THE ISSUE!!!!!<br />DROP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

I guess we are on a very touchy subject!! I really never intended for this to get this far out of hand!<br /> The truth is that I have been involved in the automotive field for over 30 years, and I am very much into what oils do and do not do! It has been a hobby of mine for nearly that long!<br /><br />It is interesting that the fellow that designed , formulated and markets Amsoil was into jet engines also!! Think he knows a thing or two!!<br /><br />You really need to go to my home page and read about the product, you just Might learn something about oils! Or is that behond you??<br /><br />and the type of oil 'IS' THE ISSUE<br /><br />Fact is that Amsoil does not have any sulpher in it which is what causes all that acid formation in the first place! You are trying to tell me something that you actually know very little about! Im "WAY" ahead of you on this one!! <br /><br />Im backing out of this subject as it is off subject, not because Im wrong!<br /><br />LubeDude

 

[walleyehed]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

You totally missed the point of MY background in lubricants.....I don't dislike Amzoil....I dislike the false information presented in an insulting manner that you believe everyone else "cannot see the light". You never did mention anything about where the corrosive vapors go that never leave your engine....what do they say about that???? I HAVE been to the site, and I never said anything bad about Amzoil, here, or anywhere else.<br /> I CAN tell you, there is not one single product from AMZOIL, that is certified for use in aircraft engines....piston, or Turbine, and yet the oils that ARE certified, are the same manufacturers of some auto oils.<br /> IF it's THAT good, why is it not FAA-PMA approved????????? (Aircraft use).<br />Exxon, now BP, and Mobile, are THE ONLY CERTIFIED synthetic oils approved for use in aircraft turbines by the Turbine manufacturers, and the US Military, in their aircraft...Not only that, they are the ONLY certified synthetics for ANY aircraft engine. (Aeroshell is semi-synthetic).

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

That was never my intention, Sorry you took it that way! Things have a way of escalating!!<br /><br />Sorry<br /><br />LubeDude

 

[Oil Man]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Amsoil is not certified for use in aircraft engines because they just don't want to deal with the liability issues. It has NOTHING to do with quality. And do you really think that the automobile oil is the same as the turbine oil??? Come on!<br /><br />This subject is really getting twisted out of proportion.

 

[dartman]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Amsoil must have a lot of concerns with liability issues, as they certify very few of their oils to any third party certification program. As far as I know, only a few grades of the XL series motor oils are certified. This along with the almost cult like following Amsoil users seem to portray makes me very reluctant to use Amsoil. I guess I’m inherently distrustful of any manufacturer’s claim, when their advertising centers on unsubstantiated claims that their product is infinitely superior to any and all of their competitor’s products.

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Moving to (Nothing to do with boats) Engine oils, Synthetic

 

[walleyehed]

Re: Johnson 150, and 2-Stroke oil

Lubedude, no prob..... <br />Oilman, what I meant was mobile makes aircraft oil, as well as automotive, as does Phillips, Shell and Exxon, and no, the aircraft oils are not the same that you use in your car....you got my point exactly.