Kicker Wiring Question

[sam am I]

All that is fine in theory, but if either motor has a faulty charging circuit, then what? Very possibly both motors will be making like mini 4th of Julys for a millisecond or 2.

Well......Things can and do fail but that's why fuses (and life jackets, fire extinguishers) were made/are installed I suppose.........always wear and use protection!

If connecting them to the same battery was an issue, the several thousand boaters (including me) around here that have a kicker with a charging system would be experiencing problems, and we don't.

Ditto

Wow, that's a long way around to saying about what I said... Thanks for backing my opinion. -Al

Sometimes and for some (definitely me) to actually use and state facts from the science as we know it/them behind the designs we use/have helps make a more valid/tangible point. "Just saying so" with no facts or even a single references doesn't/hasn't ever worked for me or some others in some cases, pet peeve I suppose .....I'm not saying you did this, far from it, I tried to just expound on your point. Apologies if I possibly belabored it.

 

[ahicks]

Um, no apology necessary! I was just kidding...

I prefer to say enough where if somebody is interested, they can check into it further themselves - or ask a question. Thanks again, -Al

 

[sam am I]

I hear ya and i knew you were..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLRwkrBZzsA

This guys runs one battery!! J/K..........Seriously though I ran across this a few weeks ago then this post came up, this video came back to mind. I like fast but on a toon? Hmmmm, don't think my butt would be on this ride!!

Seems stable enough though....from my dinning room chair that is

 

[Buster_boy]

Holy crap Sam!!!! I tried, and I tried, and I tried. I read everything 4, 5 times. I turned my tablet sideways, and although I'm a college educated guy (programmer, not engineer) I have no clue what the he'll you just said!!!!! LOL

 

[Buster_boy]

What, your boat don't do that? Ha haaaaa!!!!

 

[sam am I]

Holy crap Sam!!!! I tried, and I tried, and I tried. I read everything 4, 5 times. I turned my tablet sideways, and although I'm a college educated guy (programmer, not engineer) I have no clue what the he'll you just said!!!!! LOL

OP, you'll be fine hooking up both motor to and sharing the same battery, running or not, fast or slow, engine #1 or #2, 300HP with 9.9HP kicker, makes no difference

 

[Cat nip]

How are you going to mount the kicker? Im gonna put one on my toon this spring and looking for other mounting options. Any pictures?

 

[GA_Boater]

How are you going to mount the kicker? Im gonna put one on my toon this spring and looking for other mounting options. Any pictures?

Cat nip - Please start a topic of your own. Your question has nothing to do with this topic. Thanks.

 

[Buster_boy]

Cat nip - I revived an earlier thread I started a while ago. It's titled "Need to build a kicker mount". I'm doing a custom build and I have pics of what I have so far. Go check it out.

 

[oldboat1]

All that is fine in theory, but if either motor has a faulty charging circuit, then what? Very possibly both motors will be making like mini 4th of Julys for a millisecond or 2.

It sure sounds like most are in agreement - Either use a second battery for the kicker or use a switch to electrically isolate the 2 motors.

a little late to the party, but I think of a separate battery in the same way I think of a separate fuel tank. If the kicker motor has a second function as a get-me-home kicker, it makes sense to me to keep the systems separate. Can also keep a set of jumpers on board in case the kicker battery is needed to fire up the main motor -- and not a bad idea to use an OMC connector on the kicker fuel tank as well, to permit emergency use of the kicker tank with the main motor. Redundant starting and fuel systems.

 

[ondarvr]

Most of the kickers have a pull start option along with the electric start, so if the main battery is too low you just pull start it. It also takes far less power to spin the small kicker, so even with a battery low enough that it won't spin the main motor it will typically still start the kicker. Many people opt for the charging system on the kicker instead of a second battery.

Around here the main motor gets run for about 15 minutes to get you to the fishing grounds, then the kicker is run for 6 to 8 hours while trolling, you may make a run or two during the day on the main motor, but normally not far, so the kicker is what keeps the the battery charged. If there were real world issues with this setup I would see them on a daily basis, and I must say that I don't think I've heard of a single one.

Better yet, go with two batteries and an electronically controlled charging system so each battery is charged as needed independent of each other and with no input from you.

 

[sam am I]

Better yet, go with two batteries and an electronically controlled charging system so each battery is charged as needed independent of each other and with no input from you.

Agreed and of course, different strokes apply here (thought this thread died? Hmmmm).....With that said, I'm currently running three Batts with a ProMariner as wired below............While extended trolling (Kokanee mainly), I'll typically use four electric DR's (full/intermittent time [depends on fish])/FF (full time)/Live well (full time)/Inverter to make coffee (intermittent)/VHF (full time[receive])/12V fan (full time) all on the 10 Amp Honda with the Promariner managing the lot.I used no shore power at all and all batts stayed tip topped off all fall (I'd reckon this past fall, I went 20 4-6hr outings on 10A Honda with 15-30min runs to and from the dock on 40A Merc).

Optimal setup for me and how I typically fish/use my boat through Bass, Salmon and Beer seasons (your results may vary) for many yrs now, think this is it for what I need...........That is until I have to add something new

 

[oldboat1]

I currently fish with an inboard and an electric start kicker (a little awkward for an old guy to reach over the stern to pull it over, but can be done). Pull starting the inboard is a bit tougher(!), but the kicker battery is big enough to turn it over in a pinch. The boat runs with starter and house batteries (battery switch), with electronics split between those two bats. (Hummingbird Helix 5 from last year is touchy when run off the starter battery, so has a direct hookup to the auxiliary.)

I used to run an old 85 Evinrude with a 9.9 elec start kicker. That was a three battery setup, with the main and house batteries charging through an isolator, kicker battery only off the kicker operation. Not very sophisticated.