Kid screamed for his cell phone back

[CJY]

Re: Kid screamed for his cell phone back

I mostly agree, but maybe instead of suspension... perhaps detention is a better punishment. Especially since most kids who would be caught using their phones in class, probably don't want to be in class to begin with, much less wanting to have to stay longer. Make them hour-long detensions for 3 days, a week, and a full quarter, and I think you'd see the problem vanish pretty fast.

May work for a few. I don't like detention because it is not the schools job to babysit, which is exactly what this turns into. It's simple, follow school policy, get an education, allow others to get an education and everything is fine. Come to school with complete disregard for the school, the teachers or fellow students and sooner or later, they will be in the hands of the parent, not the school system.

FWIW, Give students detentions and the parents of those students don't complain or discipline their kids, even though the kid is failing every class miserably. Afterall, a detention usually does not inconvenience a parent. Suspend a kid, in turn making them the parents responsibility during the day and boy does the parental screaming begin. Of course, it's usually the schools fault their kid could not follow simple policy. Did I say something about apples already?

 

[thefairlaneman]

Re: Kid screamed for his cell phone back

Teachers do have the athourity to require after school detention. I say make the ones who have causes problems during the week stay after 1 hour on friday afternoon. Now that would be real punishment. By making them stay just long enough to miss their bus/ride would require the parents to have to pick them up. Then all CHIT WOULD BREAK LOOSE.believe me. Problem is the teachers want to go home on time friday worse than the kiddies.

 

[SgtMaj]

Re: Kid screamed for his cell phone back

May work for a few. I don't like detention because it is not the schools job to babysit, which is exactly what this turns into. It's simple, follow school policy, get an education, allow others to get an education and everything is fine. Come to school with complete disregard for the school, the teachers or fellow students and sooner or later, they will be in the hands of the parent, not the school system.

FWIW, Give students detentions and the parents of those students don't complain or discipline their kids, even though the kid is failing every class miserably. Afterall, a detention usually does not inconvenience a parent. Suspend a kid, in turn making them the parents responsibility during the day and boy does the parental screaming begin. Of course, it's usually the schools fault their kid could not follow simple policy. Did I say something about apples already?

That works only if you're dealing with younger kids whose parents would have to watch them. Older kids (somewhere around the age of 13 and beyond would be my guess), and parents are willing to leave them home alone, so it still doesn't disrupt the parent's day. The school could try calling the parent to get them to come down to the school, but I'd guess most parents just wouldn't show.

Either way, there is a simple solution to the whole cell phone thing... give kids deactivated cell phones. That way they can still call 911, but can't text or call their friends or do anything that would disrupt class (unless the phone has games on it, most phones don't come preloaded with games anymore though).

 

[SgtMaj]

Re: Kid screamed for his cell phone back

As far as criminal charges, are you serious? For what? You are going to prosecute the school because your son could not follow rules? Good one!

I was just responding to someone else who had implied that I might be charged criminally for sueing the school district and or teacher, which is just asinine.

Although, go the other way... I do recall some case a while back where a school administrator was facing the possibility of criminal charges for wracking up substancial charges on a cell phone they had confiscated. I don't recall if charges were filed, or even if the administrator was fired, I do remember she was suspended pending the investigation. That's all I remember about that case though... oh, and the amt. she had wracked up was something like a $700 bill.

 

[CJY]

Re: Kid screamed for his cell phone back

I was just responding to someone else who had implied that I might be charged criminally for sueing the school district and or teacher, which is just asinine.

Although, go the other way... I do recall some case a while back where a school administrator was facing the possibility of criminal charges for wracking up substancial charges on a cell phone they had confiscated. I don't recall if charges were filed, or even if the administrator was fired, I do remember she was suspended pending the investigation. That's all I remember about that case though... oh, and the amt. she had wracked up was something like a $700 bill.

I am not surprised. There are a few absolute idiots in the teaching profession. It is hard to screen those people out since most don't have records prior to their teaching. If they do have records and are hired anyway, that is on the admin and in this case, both need to lose their jobs.

I guess I was speaking from the viewpoint of a responsible teacher/admin. If a teacher confiscated a phon, then used it, he/she should lose their job/certification, pay the bill and fines, and any other penalties warranted by his/her actions etc. In this case, I would agree, it is theft. I would tend to believe though, these types of cases are few and far between.