Know-nothing needs help deciding on boat rental for weekend

[Silvertip]

Re: Know-nothing needs help deciding on boat rental for weekend

Did I say its bad to be a novice boater? Don't think so! Why do you suppose you are given a learners permit when learning to drive a car? Why do truckers require a commercial license? Good heavens -- you admitted you are novice. All I'm implying is that a family gathering is not the place to learn how to operate a boat regardless of type. You have no idea what docking maneuvers are required so you could damage someone elses boat or the one you are renting. And you want to get out and really give it the gas!!! Learn to walk before you try running. Sorry you took this wrong. You asked for an opinion and you got one.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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i see nothing wrong in upinsmokes post. it's the truth and if you can't stand the truth, grow up. it's your life and other's in inexperienced hands. get the experience before endangering others. "SAFE BOATING COURSE" if even online.

 

[cobra 3.0]

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An exprienced boater can be "put to the test" with a load of family and relatives. I hate to see how a novice will end up handling a situation like that. <br /><br />Ask yourself, how many injured and dead am I looking for on this "fun" weekend? Boating is a serious past time. Please get some experience before playing Captain of the ship with your loved ones. They will be counting on you to keep them safe.

 

[cobra 3.0]

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Here's a wake up call posted earlier:<br /><br /> http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/story/tor_accident20060522.html

 

[rickdb1boat]

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Also to clarify,<br />1. My uncle used to own a boat and he would do most of the driving. If I drove I would definately get faster only as I felt comfortable with it and under his supervision. I'm pretty cautious and I would err on the side of caution with family aboard.<br />2. There will be no skiing, only tubing.

Sounds like a plan to me.....Don't see anything wrong with that.....

 

[mothradave]

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I was going to go with the pontoon, but after reading some of the posts from the Chicken Littles I've decided to cancel the trip. Upinsmoke is right: this is a "recipe for disaster" and, like tashasdaddy says, I need to "grow up" because I just can't stand the truth. Give me a break you two. I appreciate the concern for my family's safety and the ideas for learning more about boating. That's one thing. It's another thing entirely to take someone else's post, act like I was the one saying it and then criticize what I neither said nor advocated ("Sorry YOU took this wrong. YOU asked for an opinion and YOU got one." and "if YOU can't stand the truth, grow up."). And cobra, I'm not looking for any injured or dead. What an implication. Can we just cut out the histrionics? <br /><br />Obviously safety is of the highest importance. I already said I'm approaching this cautiously and supervised.

 

[dajohnson53]

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I hope what I posted earlier didn't sound negative to you. I didn't intend to give you a hard time, just trying to give you some friendly advice based on my own experiences. I don't think you're refering to me, but just in case. <br /><br />I will reiterate the idea of a shakedown cruise without all the family members is worth considering - if nothing else to increase your own persoanl comfort level, fun, reduce stress etc. - Maybe just get there an hour or two before everyone else shows up and get your "feet wet". That way they don't have to stand around and gawk (or worse yet, make "helpful" comments!!) while you get checked out and work out the bugs. I do it every year and I've been boating for a very long time. Hassles and learning curves are much amplified with a bunch of others around who are relying on you for fun. But regardless - have a lot of fun , that pontoon is definitely the way to go and you probably wont' have any problems at all.

 

[KCook]

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"D." makes a valid point on keeping the crowd at bay for your introduction to the boat. I am always amazed at how many boaters invite a huge crowd for their very FIRST outing in their brand new boat. It may not result in a disaster, but it sure will take your attention away from learning the boat.<br /><br />Kelly

 

[Silvertip]

Re: Know-nothing needs help deciding on boat rental for weekend

If you are serious and have called off the trip because you are upset over the advice you were given you are acting like a scolded child. All that's being suggested is that you at least prove to yourself that you are capable of safely operating whatever it is you wish to rent before you try entertaining a large crowd. Every group, regardless whether or not they are relatives, will have one "expert" that will not hesitate to let you know what an idiot you are if it even remotely appears you are a novice. Now wouldn't that be something you'd like to hear in front of this group. The purpose of a forum is to seek advice. You asked for advice, was given some, and now you are upset over the responses. Nobody is "forcing" you to do anything. Take the advice or leave it. It's your choice -- but its not fair for you to grumble when advice is offered that you don't want to hear. For all we know the rental agency will take you out for a test run before turning the boat over to you. If that's what it takes, all the better. But good grief, lighten up.

 

[phatmanmike]

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for everbody's sake, take a safe boating course, please.

 

[mothradave]

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upinsmoke, it's called sarcasm. guess they didn't teach that in your boating course.

 

[rickdb1boat]

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Once again:<br /><br />

Also to clarify,<br />1. My uncle used to own a boat and he would do most of the driving. If I drove I would definately get faster only as I felt comfortable with it and under his supervision. I'm pretty cautious and I would err on the side of caution with family aboard.<br />2. There will be no skiing, only tubing.

I think you guys are freakin' out. The guy has someone experienced going with and he's not gonna be running but 10-15 MPH on a toon. Sure, run around the lake for a bit by yourself to get used to it(Which should take about an hour at most) and have fun.....He's not takin' the "Shuttle" up....

 

[mothradave]

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Thank you Rick. I appreciate the fact you (unlike some others) actually responded to things I said and not what you imagined I said. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[Silvertip]

Re: Know-nothing needs help deciding on boat rental for weekend

Let's review:<br />Here was the title of your very first post:<br /><br />"Know-nothing needs help deciding on boat rental for weekend".<br /><br />You admit to being a novice yet flatly reject suggestions regarding safety to help overcome that. As a result you accuse me of being sarcastic. That's ok. I've been called worse by people who, like you, don't know me.<br /><br />One of the boats you referenced had 300 HP. Let's put that in perspective. Recently, an uncle let his nephew use his Corvette on prom night. How cool! Only one problem. Too much power and inexperience put the nephew and his date in their graves. How do you think the uncle feels? How about the kids parents. Their friends. Yes -- this is an extreme case. But how would you feel if your inexperience resulted in someone getting injured -- never mind how seriously.<br /><br />Seems to me my post was anything but sarcastic. It even started as "a suggestion". And finished with "recipe for disaster". Hardly an inflamatory statement since it is a very common cliche (meaning unfortunate incident or I screwed up in simpler terms). I guess its ok for you to call yourself a novice and ask for suggestions but its not ok to offer suggestions that might help ensure you had a safe outing as it might reflect negatively on your novice status. Remember, you were the one that said it. But then people have become upset with other members of this and other forums for "suggesting" that they buy a service manual. You'd think we suggested that they cut off an arm. I rest my case!

 

[mothradave]

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upinsmoke, it's inspiring to see how hard you're trying to keep up. To state the blatantly obvious, it was MY post that was sarcastic. Did you really not pick up on the sarcasm and think that was a serious post??? And then after you get your panties in a wad and I clarify that it was only sarcasm (you being the ONLY one who didn't pick up on that) you actually thought I was accusing YOU of being sarcastic? I think you really are up in smoke - and not the legal kind!<br /><br />All kidding aside, it appears for the third consecutive post you continue to emphasize I asked for suggestions and then got offended and pushed them aside. NOOOOOO. First, I have never been upset. Just mystified by the exaggerated response of some. Second, it was waterinthefuel's post you responded to - I never criticized your post until after you had already accused me of disregarding it. Third and most importantly, I am doing EXACTLY what you suggested - taking a very experienced boater. As I said, he will do most of the driving and I will take it myself only under his supervision and cautiously and at slow speeds, and at the recommendation of many here, not with a full boat. I think reasonable people would agree that's sufficient.<br /><br />It's been fun meeting some interesting boaters on this forum.

 

[ieatchildren]

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Edited-Mod3

 

[rickdb1boat]

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ieatchildren<br /><br />Totally uncalled for post........................