Legalize drugs... for and against

[JRJ]

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All adults should be given all the drugs (including alcohol)they want for one year. All adults still alive at the end of a year can then decide to extend the giveaway program, stop the program, or anywhere in between. In any event, there will be less users to cause the rest of us grief.

 

[Kenneth Brown]

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And the field test is.......??

I didn't read all the way down so forgive me if someone else already said it. The answer is "Vertical Gaze Nystagmus" A Horizontal GN is what you do when the cop has you follow the light with your eyes. Its not so much wether or not you can follow it (although following instructions is part of the pass/fail) its when nystagmus sets in. Nystagmus is when your drunk or high the eyes will bounce up and down (vert) or side to side (hori). The angle at which this occurs is an indicator as to your intoxication level. Its not a save all test. Some people have a natural nystagmus. Thats were the other parts come in. Where are you going, where have you been, why, how long, perps actions when answering is the big factor.

 

[crunch]

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Kenneth, is that a go cart with a toilet for a seat?....

I guess when you want to go, you can (pun intended)

 

[Kenneth Brown]

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Might though if it becomes legal!:devil:

Now that is an eye-opening response. I wonder how many others would start, or just try it, since it would be legal.

I think pot should be legal too; it seems to be a harmless drug.

Never smoked it but would be happy to start the minute its legalized. Of course I would have to buy it illegally but..........

 

[rwise]

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Sadly, the "war on drugs" has now prevented us from purchasing over the counter cold remedies. They claim they are used in Meth production. Yes, meth can be made from them however, there has not been one single drug lab busted in this state that used "cold remedies" as the ingrediant.

That is not true. Psudeophedrine is the main ingredient in meth, and cold medicine is the only place they can get it. When it was put behind the counter here in Oregon meth labs went WAY down. Now that it's prescription only here they will go down even further. The problem is cocaine is becoming more popular because of it...

Psudeophedrine is not the only thing it meth can be made from, it's just easier.

And for the record I am only for the legalization of weed/pot/mary jane what ever its called in your area. Crank, crack, meth, the other sh!t needs to be controlled. This stuf costs people there families, they need help, but for help to work they have to want help first. Those that want help to get off this stuf should be helped!!!!

Will it ever be legal? NO it will not! That would take to much money from the crime lords!

 

[Link]

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I think that weed should be legal, in stores like alcohol stores, taxed like alcohol. Take the taxes and use that in our schools, the savings for drug enforcement could then be used to fight the stuff that really needs to be off the streets.

There are things that can be done to make Meth darn near impossible to make, why isn't it being done?

no they cannot stop it, like my brother said when he got busted making the sh!t, "I can make that too"

They also can't work when they're high so them and their 15 kids will be on welfare and I'll pay for that too.

We are already there.

I smoke also, not cigs, in my home and what most would say is very light, just a couple of hits now and then. Helps with back pain (had surgery some time ago) and helps me sleep. I have no plains to stop and I don't like being a criminal because I choose to do something in my home that would affect nobody else IF it were legal! Also I don't hide from anyone with it, I am not ashamed of what I do.

Come on Link give us your thoughts!

Heya Richard
At 1:30 am last night I had got out of bed with a back ache!
Don't bogart that joint my friend! o
Like I said it is a real good question.

You are the perfect example on my thoughts about it Richard.

Say you come home from work and find that your house had been broke into.
You call the police and they come out, look around and file a report. There is a six pack of beer on the coffee table. No big deal.

Replace the beer with a bag of grass and now your not the victim but a criminal.

Same people involved with the same crime committed against you but now you are the one on the wrong side of the law.
That doesn't make sense to me.

I don"t use it myself but know several people who do. Ages 50-68. Most for pain but several use it the same way in which I might have a beer with a friend.

No big deal to me.
There, you got my thoughts on the subject

 

[ZmOz]

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Say you come home from work and find that your house had been broke into.
You call the police and they come out, look around and file a report. There is a six pack of beer on the coffee table. No big deal.

Replace the beer with a bag of grass and now your not the victim but a criminal.

That's what a harbor freight safe and plain sight laws are for. d Sure officer, come on in....

 

[woodrat]

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A blood test at a traffic stop isn't practical. What's a practical alternative that isn't invasive??

CD.

I have a good friend and neighbor who was pulled over the other night for a burned out taillight. The cop gave him one of those field sobriety tests where you tilt your head back and touch your nose and all that, something I can hardly do stone cold sober some times. Anyway, he flunked one of these tricks so they gave him a breath test, which was .00, so then they searched his car, found some weed and took him to the hospital 35 miles away and gave a blood test. Dude was not driving too fast, or dangerously, just happened to wander past a bored sheriff's deputy on a saturday night with a bad taillight.

Now who knows how much money will be spent by the county prosecuting him for a minor weed offense and how much he will have to spend trying to defend himself. That's not to say that he should have been driving around with weed in the car. Not smart and probably not super safe either.

They got some professional narc in here a couple of years ago who was supposed to be looking for meth, which is everywhere. So the lazy bum just sits in town soliciting kids to sell him little bags of weed. He kept trying to buy meth through them, but they all said "no thanks, man, we don't do that s**t." So after 6 months of expensive undercover work, this professional wraps it up by busting a half dozen young people for tiny pot sales, and heads home to Ohio or wherever he was from. Meth freaks, meanwhile, are wandering around with sores all over their faces and teeth falling out of their heads, and this guy "couldn't" find them.

I wouldn't be in favor of legalizing meth, but for pot to be illegal is a tremendous waste of time and money for all. You want to talk about the morality of smoking a joint? If you don't have a moral problem with people enjoying a beer, a cigarette, a double latte, or a can of Mountain Dew, then your moral issues with drug use are awfully selective.

Besides, you legalize pot and you immediately remove the mexican cartels from the arena, and they have been more and more of a problem in the west in the last few years, growing huge, out of control pot farms on public land and eating up a lot of resources just cleaning up after it. And no, I wouldn't be in favor of pot being sold in the store or taxed either. Just let people grow some in the garden next to the tomatoes if they want and get over it already.

 

[Link]

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Say you come home from work and find that your house had been broke into.
You call the police and they come out, look around and file a report. There is a six pack of beer on the coffee table. No big deal.

Replace the beer with a bag of grass and now your not the victim but a criminal.

That's what a harbor freight safe and plain sight laws are for. d Sure officer, come on in....

OK ya got me on that! Good point.